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DXWG DCAT subgroup teleconference 22 May 2019 20:00 UTC

22 May 2019

Attendees

Present
AndreaPerego, DaveBrowning, riccardoAlbertoni, SimonCox
Regrets
Alasdair Gray, Alejandra, Erik Mannens, Lars Svensson, Makx, PWinstanley, Thomas D'Haenens
Chair
DaveBrowning
Scribe
SimonCox

Meeting minutes

minutes of last meeting

https://‌www.w3.org/‌2019/‌05/‌15-dxwgdcat-minutes

<DaveBrowning> /www.w3.org/2019/05/08-dxwgdcat-minutes///www.w3.org/2019/05/08-dxwgdcat-minutes

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1

+1

<DaveBrowning> +1

<AndreaPerego> +1

Resolved: approve minutes of last meeting

Topics arising from plenary

DaveBrowning: plh explains that we need to have 'wide consultation' with community groups
… list from charter. Pwin has taken on the task of contacting the CG chairs.

Action: DaveBrowning to update action in the tracker to reflect the fact that pwin will do it

<trackbot> Created ACTION-332 - Update action in the tracker to reflect the fact that pwin will do it [on David Browning - due 2019-05-29].

actions from yesterday's plenary - https://‌www.w3.org/‌2019/‌05/‌21-dxwg-minutes#ActionSummary

DaveBrowning: 4-6 weeks to allow for feedback. This would exhaust the charter. Plenary agreed to request 6 month extension.

AndreaPerego: which CGs?

List from plh - Internationalization, Privacy, Security, Shape Expressions CG, SHACL Community Group, schema.org for datasets Community Group, ODRL Community Group, European Commission's ISA Programme, Research Data Alliance, and bioCADDIE WG 3.

TomB indicated that ShEx would be interested to receive request for review

AndreaPerego: 1. ShEx 2. Internationalization 3. Security
… are the only groups that we need to show evidence of consultation

DaveBrowning: also 4. ODRL

<Zakim> riccardoAlbertoni, you wanted to ask if in the six month extension we are expected to update the DCAT CR or just finishing the process to get the rec

Action: DaveBrowning to confirm with pwin which groups we beleive we have to consult

<trackbot> Created ACTION-333 - Confirm with pwin which groups we beleive we have to consult [on David Browning - due 2019-05-29].

riccardoAlbertoni: unclear what next steps

Another PWD to support wide consultation efficiency

riccardoAlbertoni: can use GitHub comments to show that we have received external review

DaveBrowning: purpose of 6-month extension is to allow for (a) hiatus during northern summer (b) need to develop implementation evidence for DCAT (c) but mostly to provide breathing room for Profiles work

<Zakim> AndreaPerego, you wanted to ask if https://‌www.w3.org/‌community/‌hclscg/ is the same of bioCADDIE

Need to check with alejandra I think

Action: PWinstanley to organize wide review of DCAT

<trackbot> Created ACTION-334 - Organize wide review of dcat [on Peter Winstanley - due 2019-05-29].

wrapping up the current PWD

pwin did some work on https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌pull/‌913 but appears to have stalled or been overtaken ..

<AndreaPerego> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌939

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to have version 2 ( I think it is more understandable to a large audience)

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to put version in the title ... and the future no one can see ..

1. evergreen rec means that 'version N' will be appropriate 2. subtitle does not currently appear in specref - move 'Version 2' into main title so that there is no confusion in specref references now.

AndreaPerego: doing PR now.

<DaveBrowning> profile def https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌937

definition of 'Profile'

<riccardoAlbertoni> we gave a definition of DCAT profile

DaveBrowning: if profiles documents are not complete, we don't have an external definition of profile to refer to

AndreaPerego: inconsistent terminology - colleagues cannot tell if 'DCAT Profile' == 'Application Profile' == 'Profile'
… and there is no Profile guidance document to provide definition

<riccardoAlbertoni> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌937#issuecomment-494436750

DaveBrowning: we already have definition in conformance section

https://‌w3c.github.io/‌dxwg/‌dcat/#conformance
… carried through from DCAT 2014

actually it was tweaked a bit - compare with https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌2014/‌REC-vocab-dcat-20140116/#conformance

AndreaPerego: perhaps we should be more consistent in use of 'DCAT Profile' vs 'Application Profile'

riccardoAlbertoni: I think we mean the same thing.

riccardoAlbertoni: propose to replace 'Application Profile' with 'Profile' except where we are referring to something where 'Application Profile' is in its name.

<Zakim> SimonCox, you wanted to suggest a adding a clarifying sentence to conformance section, then use DCAT Profile consistently in this document thereafter

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to add also the note .. .

DaveBrowning: do use 'application profile' in two ways in text - 1. extending DCAT classes and propertie 2. in section https://‌w3c.github.io/‌dxwg/‌dcat/#profiles

Proposed: note in conformance section should say something close to 'when we say DCAT Profile we mean things that the Dublin Core community would call Application Profiles (in the context of DCAT)'

<AndreaPerego> +1

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1

+1

<DaveBrowning> +1

Resolved: add note in conformance section should say something close to 'when we say DCAT Profile we mean things that the Dublin Core community would call Application Profiles (in the context of DCAT)'

Action: andrea to make ed change adding note to definition of DCAT Profile

<trackbot> Created ACTION-335 - Make ed change adding note to definition of dcat profile [on Andrea Perego - due 2019-05-29].

<AndreaPerego> Re. the subtitle issue, this is the relevant PR: https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌pull/‌940

Summary of action items

  1. DaveBrowning to update action in the tracker to reflect the fact that pwin will do it
  2. DaveBrowning to confirm with pwin which groups we beleive we have to consult
  3. PWinstanley to organize wide review of DCAT
  4. andrea to make ed change adding note to definition of DCAT Profile

Summary of resolutions

  1. approve minutes of last meeting
  2. add note in conformance section should say something close to 'when we say DCAT Profile we mean things that the Dublin Core community would call Application Profiles (in the context of DCAT)'
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by Bert Bos's scribe.perl version Mon Apr 15 13:11:59 2019 UTC, a reimplementation of David Booth's scribe.perl. See history.

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