W3C

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WoT-IG/WG

08 May 2019

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Matthias_Kovatsch, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Taki_Kamiya, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Toru_Kawaguchi
Regrets
Chair
McCool, Matthias
Scribe
TK

Contents


Agenda

<McCool> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#8_May_2019

<scribe> Scribe: TK

<kaz> scribnick: taki

McCool is showing draft Agenda...

<kaz> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2019May/0019.html (Member-only)

<kaz> kaz: draft transition request above

Namespace discussion

McCool: had meeting with Ralph. agreed on version scheme.
... ns URI, we need to find new use of it.

<kaz> Ralph's additional clarification (Member-only)

Kaz: there are additional points for clarification.
... we need to use "wot-" for json schema and weblinking.

McCool: what is in the spec now?
... we need to fix it. Can Kaz create an issue?

Kaz: OK.

Sebastian: who made this proposal?

McCool: I think it came from Ralph.

Kaz: We need to talk with Ralph when we want to use namespaces which require Director's approval

McCool: New URLs make sense.

Kaz: option B makes sense.

Matthias: Alternative is "wot-hypermedia".

<victor> +1

Matthias: instead of web linking.

Victor: "wot-" becomes directory?

Matthias: usually directory is used instead of using pyphen.

Victor: validation TTL and validation JSON, where should it go?

Kaz: that discussion is different from URL discussion.

Matthias: if we use directory structure in URL, are we allowed to store other files?
... subdirectory "wot" for example, can it store files?

Kaz: we can talk with web master.

McCool: option B allows for that.

Lagally: Option B is better.

McCool: Let's proceed with option B.

Sebastian: option B is good because it aligns well what we have in TD spec already.
... web-linking becomes hypermedia.

Victor: I will do this change.

McCool: there is a minutes to that meeting.

Schedule

McCool: TAG review feedback is not expected before May 8.
... We make resolution today for CR request.
... ...in order to maek May 16 CR publication.
... which allows June 20 PR and August 1 REC publication.
... We need to make request tomorrow.
... WoT Arch has candidate release.
... TD is still working on small changes.
... we make resolutions for both today.
... For TD, 10am-12pm Europe time, editors will meet for cleanup, and another WoT main call in the second half.
... on May 9th.

Lagally: we have architecture call also before that call.

McCool: Today's resolution will allow small changes on both architecture and TD docs.

Lagally: Editors suggested to merge candidate branch into master.
... I can merge into master now if all agree.

McCool: "CR-candidate-3" branch.
... Architecture TF spent a day to review the branch.
... Please review the master branch before the 10am-12pm call on May 9th.

Sebastian: Please everyone to join the call.

McCool: Can we make a preliminary resolution for CR request?
... Let's do a resolution.

<McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3

<McCool> based on the above candidate

Sebastian: can we do TD first?

McCool is typing a resolution for WoT Architecture...

Kaz: It should be a proposal. "Proposal:"

McCool is typing a proposal for resolution...

<McCool> proposal: Accept the candidate for the WoT Architecture specification at https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3 for CR transition with the understanding that an additional final resolution will be made on May 9 during the scheduled Architecture call where any final changes will be reviewed and approved.

McCool: Does anybody have suggestion for change?

Matthias: Note that the link to "a rendered version" in this branch actually points to the rendered master branch

McCool is typing a modified proposal...

McCool: Tomorrow, we will make a resolution based on master.

<kaz> https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/CR-candidate-3/index.html

McCool is typing a resolution...

RESOLUTION: Accept the candidate for the WoT Architecture specification at https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3 (rendered version at https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/CR-candidate-3/index.html) for CR transition with the understanding that an additional final resolution will be made on May 9 during the scheduled Architecture call where any final changes will be reviewed and approved.

McCool: done.
... Now TD.
... We can use the same form of resolution.

<sebastian> https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description

McCool is typing a proposal...

Sebastian: conflicts were resolved and merged already.
... Please note that Thing no longer has name based on issues raised by I18N WG.

<McCool> proposal: Accept the candidate for the WoT Thing Description specification at https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description for CR transition with the understanding that an additional final resolution will be made on May 9 during a call immediately after the scheduled Architecture call.

McCool: IRI in JSON Schema, and namespace changes.

Victor: Appendix for the transformation was also significantly extended.

McCool: Please review during next 24 hours.

Ege: My changes somehow were overridden.

McCool: Please Ege, fix the problem.
... Victor, can you make namespace changes asap?

Victor: there are three issues related to namspace.
... links will not take to anywhere currently.

McCool: We can add a note, or we can leave it without a note.

Kaz: which links do you mean?

McCool: Namespace links. They are all broken.

Kaz: because we have not installed resources.

McCool: is it a problem to have non-dereferenceable link in CR?

Kaz: redirection should be set.

McCool: Kaz, please try to resolve this.

Kaz: Please summarize the requirement.

Victor: the table still is valid.

Kaz: Please create the final requirement.
... based on the current issue.

McCool: Can Victor summarize what need to be done?

Kaz: we can continue the discussion offline to clarify the final requirements for namespace setting, redirection, content negotiation, etc.

McCool: does anybody object to turn the resolutions into resolutions?

<mkovatsc> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/611

Matthias: Issue #611. I want to resolve this.
... I am not opposing the resolution.

McCool: anybody else?

McCool is translating proposals into proposals...

McCool: There is a PlugFest call after this.

Kaz: we need a clear resolution.

RESOLUTION: Accept the candidate for the WoT Thing Description specification at https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description for CR transition with the understanding that an additional final resolution will be made on May 9 during a call immediately after the scheduled Architecture call.

Lagally: Please let's defer workshop demo discussions to next week.

Sebastian: PlugFest can be discussed next week.

McCool: can sebastian mark issues with tag "by CR transition" ?
... and assign to people?

McCool assigned #611 to Matthias and Sebastian...

McCool is assigning #652 to Victor...

Matthias: this still needs discussion because it is about alternative namespaces.
... This issue is not critical.

F2F

<kaz> f2f wiki

Ege: Reserving a room for weekend, I need to check if it is allowed or not.
... Is there any volunteer companies to host the catering for F2F?

McCool: Let's discuss next week.

Workshop

Lagally: Workshop committee is reviewing the submissions.
... today, we will send invitations.

Sebastian: with agenda.

Testing call

McCool: we focus on testing in the testing call after this call.

Draft transition request

<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention kaz will mention the draft transition request during the Arch/TD calls tomorrow

AOB?

Ege: PR 653 was merged.

McCool: Let's talk in testing call.

<McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/653

<kaz> [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Accept the candidate for the WoT Architecture specification at https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/CR-candidate-3 (rendered version at https://cdn.staticaly.com/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/CR-candidate-3/index.html) for CR transition with the understanding that an additional final resolution will be made on May 9 during the scheduled Architecture call where any final changes will be reviewed and approved.
  2. Accept the candidate for the WoT Thing Description specification at https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description for CR transition with the understanding that an additional final resolution will be made on May 9 during a call immediately after the scheduled Architecture call.
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