Internationalization Working Group Teleconference -- 18 Apr 2019

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<scribe> Scribenick: addison

WoT reviews

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

(addison introduces)

kaz: our main purpose is first doc, WoT Thing Description
... other is kind of basic concepts
... our schedule, we'd like to bring to CR at end of the month
... already has some i18n features
... like to know if this is okay

richard: doc I'm looking at is not in a w3c repo
... would prefer if it were in w3c repo before we review

kaz: updating the draft daily, but generated fixed version using branch
... if needed, I can copy the fixed HTML to the www.w3.org server.

<mkovatsc_> W3C repo: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/

mathias: our doc is on github

sebastian: would having a meeting to guide you helpful?

richard: if you can review our checklist, that will help you guide us
... think it is a good idea for you to look through and identify things important for us to review
... we will likely look other places too, but it will still help
... https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/shortchecklist.html
... points to more detailed checklist also

<inserted> detailed checklist

richard: if you go through and see if there are things to pay attention to while doing review
... we have to understand your document in just a few days

addison: anything you want to call attention to?

mathias: we will send you links to paths of doc
... and double check guidelines

<kaz> s/matthias:/sebastian:/

richard: can you give a brief overview of docs?

sebastian: easiest way to explain is
... everyone knows html
... thing description is for devices
... index html for things
... describe capabilities of things
... properties, action events
... data expected
... protocol, such as http or some other iot protocol
... RDF based

Explainer: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/TD-TAG-review/explainer/Explainer.md

Sebastian: what is the action about, title and description terms

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/

Sebastian: multiple language support

r12a: is there some kind of markup involved? how is information stored

sebastian: thing description can be stored in different ways

matthias: json based interchange format
... aligned with JSON-LD
... so JSON 1.1 could be used
... model for json structure so can be machine read
... have a few human-readable fields

richard: put a link to string-meta, should read carefully
... anticipating comments, since we have identified problems with RDF and LD
... involving base direction

Matthias: not a format for display

kaz: have discussion with ld group, including Ivan Herman
... model describes device properties and how to control using actions and events
... concentrating on how to deal with devices properties
... will look into detailed checklist

addison: only one telecon before end of month

r12a: would like to understand why you didn't come forward sooner
... were you unaware?

matthias: didn't understand process

richard: need to find way to understand process earlier on
... also maybe having an i18n champion in WG

kaz: first of all, very sorry as the team contact that we couldn't bring this earlier. there were important technical problems
... took longer than we expect

addison: used to reviewing very raw specs

matthias: reached out in tpac
... something fell between lines
... good if some kind of early registration mechanism

richard: would having a champion in your WG be helpful?

<kaz> kaz: as part of the w3c project team as well as the team contact for wot, yes, i agree

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-764?

<trackbot> action-764 -- Addison Phillips to Check if unicode describes backwards deletion clearly and develop doc if not -- due 2018-10-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/764

addison: PR?

action-774?

<trackbot> action-774 -- Richard Ishida to Publish first public working draft of string-meta -- due 2019-02-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/774

close action-774

<trackbot> Closed action-774.

action-795?

<trackbot> action-795 -- Addison Phillips to Send issue 521 to css -- due 2019-04-11 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/795

close action-795

<trackbot> Closed action-795.

action-797?

<trackbot> action-797 -- Atsushi Shimono to Start writing weekly summary of new/tracked issues -- due 2019-04-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/797

atsushi: including one line of description

richard: including 2 in chinese, one at bottom

atsushi: included some from lreqs

richard: only include if questions

action-798?

<trackbot> action-798 -- Addison Phillips to Make new autocapitalization issue against html based on today's discussion -- due 2019-04-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/798

close action-798

<trackbot> Closed action-798.

Info Share

regrets next week from addison

richard: LTR/RTL doc being reworked
... have a look at new version

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-ltr-scripts-in-rtl.en.html

Retiring Charmod-Resid

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-charmod-resid-20041122/

proposed: retire charmod-resid; convert to WD and then convert to Note and retire it

jck: choice is either "please don't read this" or do lots of work

please vote on retiring charmod-resid

<r12a> +1

<xfq> +1

<Jeff_> +1

<JcK> +1

<atsushi> +1

<Bert> +1

RESOLUTION: retire charmod-resid (withdraw from CR, convert to WD, and publish as retired Note)

AOB?

next week's telecon canceled

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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

18 Apr 2019

Attendees

Contents

WoT reviews

Action Items

Info Share

Retiring Charmod-Resid

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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