Next week's call

[Probable regrets from Steven]

Steven: Cancelled for a funeral.

A Clock in XForms

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0017

Steven: Part 4 of my XForms series at xml.com

Testsuite updated with new insert tests

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0018

Steven: Added some tests for insert
... Action items completed:

ACTION-2246: Update refresh for itemset items [DONE]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0086

ACTION-2239: Update insert element with changes agreed [DONE]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0087

ACTION-2240: Allow deselection on select1 [DONE]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0088

ACTION-2241: Specify that only one item is selected [DONE]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0089

ACTION-2242: Specify what happens initially for open selections

<scribe> [DONE]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0090

ACTION-2243: Implement @copy > @value on itemset [DONE]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0093

Selection controls

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0069

[I will close if no comments]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0069

New text for itemset element

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Mar/0075

[Please review]

https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#The_itemset_Element

Steven: Now included in the spec. Comments are welcome

out-of-range (8.3 Implementation Requirements Common to All

Controls > Rendering)

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0027

Steven: So does this cover out-of-range? If so, then I want to make that explicit

Erik: Seems reasonable.
... Let me have look

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to update out-of-range for section on all controls

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2248 - Update out-of-range for section on all controls [on Steven Pemberton - due 2019-04-17].

Updated insert slightly

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0009

Steven: Please check the summary that it satisfies

Inserting into an empty list

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0015

Steven: It's unexpected; I think it's unintended; I doubt anyone depends on it; I think it's an error; it might be worth fixing.

Erik: I'd like longer to think about it.
... the action mixes a couple of things.
... the context would be more explicit if we had into="..."

Steven: It is this line: "the target location is before the first child of the insert

location node, or the child list of the insert location node if it is

empty;

"

Erik: This would change things

<ebruchez> <list><foo/></list>

Steven: Yes, but I'm not sure anyone uses it

<ebruchez> <insert context=“list” origin=“element(‘bar’)”/>

<ebruchez> <list><bar/><foo/></list>

<ebruchez> <insert context=“list” ref=“foo” origin=“element(‘bar’)”/>

<ebruchez> <list><foo/><bar/></list>

Steven: @at and @position are ignored when the target sequence is empty

Erik: I'm worried about backwards compatibility
... we could add @into

Steven: Or we could use @at and @position in the empty case too.

<ebruchez> https://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-update-30/#id-insert

Erik: XQuery update has a different technique

Steven: I'll take a look
... let's think on it before the next call

insert/@at evaluation context

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0023

https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#The_insert_Element

Steven: So is this the same as the Element Evaluation Context?

Erik: I think so.

Alain: I think so too.

<scribe> ACTION: Steven update insert/@at context

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2249 - Update insert/@at context [on Steven Pemberton - due 2019-04-17].

Clone items?

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0007

Steven: So should we be explicit about items being copied, not just nodes?

Erik: Definitely
... what happens with translating more than one item into text?
... Separate with whitespace (ala XSLT)
... in the end you need nodes.
... items are not nodes.
... We should say something about it.

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to talk about copying items in insert

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2250 - Talk about copying items in insert [on Steven Pemberton - due 2019-04-17].

ACTION-2244: Remove the term deep copy

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2019Apr/0001

Steven: Let's just use 'copy' instead of 'clone'.

Erik: Yeah.
... It's not rocket science, not ambiguous

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to replace 'clone' with 'copy'.

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2251 - Replace 'clone' with 'copy'. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2019-04-17].

AOB

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No call next week.

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