<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Update tracking design patterns and assigning reviews of design patterns (see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GvlmwHCsWobTgXx9LTWmbRBM6jT8s5lZcardq8u_Ge4/edit# )
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> john can you hear me
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> i can hear u
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> scribe: kirkwood
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> scribe: johnkirkwood
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aJE2C0FzzzXgydEp0MNGSdDDvUTTsANViUVvciFK36k/edit#
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/track/actions/open
<johnkirk_> LS: two links in channel main page to all different documents
<johnkirk_> LS: tried to put all links into document on the main page
<johnkirk_> LS: planning page
<janina> scribe: johnkirk_
LS: two documents we have are timeline and main documents
<Jennie_> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/track/
Jennie: looking for something
more detailed. the tracker tool stop using ruegularly in irc
channel right now
... issue actions by user see items assigned to you
<janina> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/users/my
Jennie: want you to look on right
in navigation link for products
... maybe put link to each of action items into products
... can update issue within email by using action number
... its the kind of thing we could volunteer to do that.
... name of task, short description, and due date
... michael talked about github but sorting by date is
difficult
... having something more solid would be helpful
LS: we are actually using issue
tracker.
... action on irc channel does update them
... if more people want us to use it we can but found people
weren't referring back to it
Janina: i agree with using tracker that is extremely useful
LS: you are very used to W3C tools which may be atypical
put into this page only see open issues
MC: proposal is to manage the
process to make more usful by Jennie
... jennies management would be pulling out and pinging the
ones that are the priority
... tracker is not perfect but lets make the best for us
LS: a google doc to do list could be possible
MC: jennie and i discussed and
not sure if it would meet the need
... i understand it didn't help before
... but have not had a person tracking which is different
Jennie: can i speak about some of the struggles i'm having
LS: not able to resolve it now
Jennie: while its valid to see struggles that people are having at this time, however best to manage that would be great
LS: I will put on agenda.
... everybody's action is and prioritization
Jennie: its the tracking 4
differnt docs with 4 due dates for example
... want all in one location
LS: want to track actions and due
dates
... all being in one place
Jennie: link to document and document name
LS: john you need prioritization?
JK: yes
LS: we used to spend first 10
minutes of each call going through action items
... we could go back to that
... what i'm doing now is the highest priority work
... another problem is the prioritization
... people are doing low priority stuff for example when on
deadline
... input on this is welcome?
Janina: i find action tracker particularly helpful
LS: I here the need
... maybe should focus on action tracker, like to see with
other people because we did use it but stopped because wasnt
using it
... did spend first 20 minutes going through action items like
to identify what the problems were, for those that did use
it
... want to see how many would use it, haven't been maintaining
it to see who uses it
... i'll bring up on coordination call to see if other tools
are available
... try for a short time if Jennie is managing it
... how are we doing currently with reviewing design guide?
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aJE2C0FzzzXgydEp0MNGSdDDvUTTsANViUVvciFK36k/edit#
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> please look at second link
LS: we have review and "working on it" document
<Jennie_> Yes - very helpful
LS: have you found table of
review items.
... great all looking at it
... we've got someone down for each item to do the original
item
... almost all done
... provide feedback doesn't have someone assigned to it
... thats only one without a name
... i'll put my name down
... doesn't look so bad
... with review Jennie I see you have completed some
Jennie: all inside google doc
LS: anyone else trying to
coordinate with people?
... over next week want Steve to review
... also want to see if anything is messed up
... our responsibility as a task force is to handle. Want steve
do merging end of next week. want to finish current round over
the next week
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> scribe: Janie_
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> scribe: Jennie_
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aJE2C0FzzzXgydEp0MNGSdDDvUTTsANViUVvciFK36k/edit#
Lisa: the links jump to the
original document, not within this document.
... does anyone else need another call?
... we will try to get the remaining items done within the next
week.
... Then we can add them to the list.
<johnkirk_> Jennie: might want to have a conversation about it
<johnkirk_> i don't think i need a call
<scribe> scribe: johnkirk_
LS: try and get current ones we
have down done by end of next week
... do you think you'd be comfortable for review, David is two
ok?
David: sure
LS: one would be orientation
call
... the other would be a call how to review
David: yes to review
LS: free on Monday?
... to david
david: yes
... except 11-12 pacific
LS: what about an hour after this call
David: yes
Janina: timeanddate.com
LS: i'll do time and date thing
and send out invite
... i think i've got the right time
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: send out invite to call
<trackbot> Error finding 'send'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/track/users>.
LS: to send out invite to
call
... ACTION: send out invite to call
... hopefully we'll get all these things reviewed over the next
week or two
... if anyone wants to join in let me know
I would be interested
LS: I will send to list
... want to email them with schedule so everyone on top of
it
... think this item wasn't closed very well?
... should we send open actions to list
Jennie: what is the threshold for number of people on call to make a decision
LS: people who are active in the
task force
... John Rochford and EA if useful
... you'd find it useful if projects written up?
Jennie: my recommendation would
be to have some discussion on list?
... a bit of both would be very helpfule
LS: other tools like Trello could be useful too?
Jennie: we can update it through
the IRC
... ?
LS: just this one
Jennie: wouln't be able to do it
also
... all for carving out tasks
LS: writing good action items
while scribing sometimes difficult
... using the W3C tracking tool bot
... we will carve out item for someone knowing how to write up
a decent action item
... can you update actions badly written?
Janina: L yes
LS: next item
LS: Michael you wanted to add
MC: we talked about joining main
working group broaden channel of task force an working
group
... participation in an orientation call was proposed
<Jennie_> +1
LS: a call about things beyond this task force and W3C we are part of two goups APA and WCAG and how to work with other groups
David: yes
... would be interested in participating
Jennie: maybe we will email back and forth to join
LS: next one is Steve's
pages
... worth being aware of what he is doing.
does anyone have the link to Steve's pages
Jennie: talking about pages you and Steve disussing on list?
LS: no don't think so
... its the layout for the design guide in these different
pages
MC: i put the url in is that it?
LS: no.
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://w3c.github.io/wai-coga/coga-draft/guide/
LS: this is it!!
... review outline for design guide i think we are very
close
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://w3c.github.io/wai-coga/coga-draft/guide/understandable/
LS: add extra layer one of the
principals
... the links to test cases under overview
... the purpose of each page is clear, user testing, user
stories, and patents
... do people agree or disagree
David: no comment
LS: want to know how its going
and if you have any comments this is a really good time before
putting actual content into it
... thank you everyone for assisting with issues
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