W3C

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Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

21 Mar 2019

Attendees

Present
JohnRochford, stevelee, Jennie, Roy, Glenda, kirkwood, Rachael
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
alastairc, Glenda

Contents


<stevelee> john, roy are you joining us? on webex

<alastairc> scribe: alastairc

WCAG 2.2 update

stevelee: Quick update from the F2F. WCAG working on 2.2, we've picked on 3 of our design patterns to put forward. In order to make that work, we'll be looking for some people to shepard it through.
... just a heads up at the moment.

John: With that, and building on what you did, not sure I understand was come up with during the design patterns.

Working process doc: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2.2_working_process

<JohnRochford> +1 to Alastair's description of the process to get COGA SC approved

Design Guide - Missing patterns

proposed SC (last item) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11IKqjRFvkRd2dAfUiyc5whhB3yIYXvSiirWct7KQIB0/edit?usp=sharing

stevelee: I couldn't find some of the patterns, we didn't seem to have addressed some items.
... is anyone able to pick up some of these items?

Jennie: I think my name got taken off the list, perhaps there have been some changes between meetings?
... there was one I was supposed to work on, but waiting to find out if it had merged.
... Use a consistent visual design was what you and EA were working on, just looking it up.
... the one that had issues 26 & 39. I'll send you the info tomorrow.

stevelee: I thought these were missing - making each step clear.
... also one that has a long name, with headings, visual heirarchies and whitespace.
... provide feedback was another.

Rachael: I could pick up 'undo'.

Jennie: Saw from twitter Jamie hasn't been back home for a while, so worth just asking.

stevelee: Could you do 'make each step clear'? (Rachael)
... I'll chase Jamie.

<stevelee>   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GvlmwHCsWobTgXx9LTWmbRBM6jT8s5lZcardq8u_Ge4/edit#

<stevelee> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aJE2C0FzzzXgydEp0MNGSdDDvUTTsANViUVvciFK36k/edit#heading=h.xx54inmr9sci

Jennie: Showing the review for the design guide, and Lisa and I went through it together, went through each step. Also, checking links.
... e.g. the first link to the template didn't go where we thought. The google doc adds an extra H2, so you might have to scroll down a few lines to review the template.
... Lisa helped me understand this, the multiple layers.
... 1st thing - don't get into the details, just check everything is present.
... 2 - review the github issues. There are times you might find something in github hasn't been accounted for in the table for the design guide.
... 3 - is it clear what you need to do? I.e. what are we asking people to do.
... that all needs doing before the 4th step.
... 4 - plain english review. BUT, as we might re-work it, leave this until the end.
... I wasn't sure when to make the change in the doc or when to ask people to change it.
... we discussed doing minor stuff in the doc, e.g. typos, spelling. However, if it could change the meaning, need to go back to the person who wrote it.

JohnRochford: just a reminder, I'll tackle the plain language at the end of the process.

Jennie: Yep, just wanted to make sure it was concrete first.

JohnRochford: I'm listed for objective 2, not sure what it is about?

stevelee: Looks like you were down to look at sub-menus?

JohnRochford: No.

Stevelee: Looks like you were down for review?

JohnRochford: Looks like JohnK will be doing those things.

stevelee: probably just have the wrong letter!

JohnRochford: Looks like there are more?

<Glenda> Yep.

<stevelee> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aJE2C0FzzzXgydEp0MNGSdDDvUTTsANViUVvciFK36k/edit#heading=h.bs5oe6ut17hm

<scribe> scribe:Glenda

stevelee: what about other sources of information for the pattern. are we just supposed to look at the github issues? I thought there were more sources.

jennie: yes. see item 2 in “reviewing design guide pattern” https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GvlmwHCsWobTgXx9LTWmbRBM6jT8s5lZcardq8u_Ge4/edit#heading=h.um7nz5ganbi3

stevelee: we may need to remove links to these things later.

jennie: helpful to have historical references at the bottom

Rachael: can we add more status on the review column. There is an intermediate state of “I’ve reviewed, but now I’m waiting on the group for feedback.”

stevelee: adding “questions” as a status for review

<JohnRochford> +1 to understanding Jennie's explanation

Design Guide - How to do a pattern review (by Jennie)

stevelee: checking on progress for reviews. let’s set some dates for reviews to be finished.
... suggests a week from now as a due date.

jennie: Lisa had originally said March 23rd as a review target date

<Jennie> Deadlines for reviewing +1

jennie: do we have a calendar location of the deadlines for tasks (for individuals or a group)?

stevelee: there is a planning page on the wiki, but I don’t think it has detailed target dates

<stevelee> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/PlanningPage

jennie: is there another way that the AG is managing tasks/timelines

stevelee: MichaelC is there a way of tasks/timeline?

MichaelC: there is no formal calendar or way of tracking used by all the groups

Jennie: I’ve been making my own notes and keeping reminders in my calendar. It would be helpful to have a way to tracking tasks and important timelines.

MichaelC: it would be a good thing for someone to pick up to do. Lisa keeps the high level timeline.

Jennie: i’d be willing to do it if I had some support.

MichaelC: I can give you some guidance.

Jennie: You can put me down for that task: managing a task timeline for this Design Guide project.

Design Guide - Review status and update incl dates

stevelee: anyone have any questions on their design review?

jennie: I have met with Lisa on mind

Stevelee: Lisa suggested a working call on Tuesday, Mar 26 10am eastern

kirkwood: sounds good to me

<Jennie> I cannot make Tuesday but will read any summaries posted.

Design Guide - Setting up an open call for pattern review (if needed)

Web pages

stevelee: any other business

jennie: thank you Steve for chairing the meeting

trackbot, end meeting

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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