trackbot, prepare teleconference

<agendabot> clear agenda

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-773?

<trackbot> action-773 -- Addison Phillips to Close all issues and publish charmod-norm as a wg note (with richard's assistance) -- due 2019-01-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/773

close action-773

<trackbot> Closed action-773.

action-774?

<trackbot> action-774 -- Richard Ishida to Publish first public working draft of string-meta -- due 2019-02-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/774

Info Share

jck: ietf i18n directorate now set up

RADAR and Active Work Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

<r12a> w3c.github.io/typography/gap-analysis/language-matrix

richard: implemented the change in categorization for typographic stuff as discussed last week
... did this in the language matrix too

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/typography/gap-analysis/language-matrix

richard: if you look at the language matrix
... set pagination, other paragraph, other inline to "okay" by default
... reduced need for investigation
... started retrofitting to gap analysis docs
... for lao and javanese and khmer
... gathering gap analysis from discussion list
... didn't have anywhere to put info

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/sealreq/lao/

richard: created new layout requirements docs

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/sealreq/khmer/

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/sealreq/javanese/

richard: pretty much little stubs

addison: any way to automate?

(discussion)

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/mlreq/

RTL Japanese and Chinese

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2754

richard: for your information...
... a little more common in chinese
... question is how to do
... what about punctuation?
... placed in middle of square
... comma might face same way?
... in japanese, the comma is moved to the left of character square in horizontal
... would you need to reposition it if RTL?
... no one knows, no examples so far

addison: how?

richard: actually vertical text with 1 character per column is really an urban myth
... it's nonsensical
... horizontal-tbrl was suggested
... but that is inconsistent with writing modes
... key issue is that japanese/chinese are strongly LTR
... UBA relies on character properties
... thinking is to use bidi override with direction=rtl
... embedded numbers/text in <bdo>
... but very similar to "close wrapping" recommendation we do for normal bidi text

<input> types in HTML

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2019JanMar/0033.html

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2019JanMar/0007.html

<scribe> ACTION: addison: ping florian in place of chaals for input type=email

<trackbot> Created ACTION-775 - Ping florian in place of chaals for input type=email [on Addison Phillips - due 2019-02-14].

richard: info share

Publishing APL doc in Jlreq TF

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/docs/simple-ruby/

richard: JL req TF plans to do number of things
... 1. go through errata
... also pick up docs from advanced publishing lab in japan
... this is the first
... "rules for simple placement of ruby"
... didnd't want to put in jlreq directly
... believe we should at least point to it from jlreq
... people might disagree, more a personal opinion?
... need to figure out what status to use
... have a look at it in case of problems

addison: should this really go into TR space? or just be article? concern about normative appearance

richard: let's have a look

<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind WG to read simple-ruby draft for next week's teleconference

<trackbot> Created ACTION-776 - Remind wg to read simple-ruby draft for next week's teleconference [on Addison Phillips - due 2019-02-14].

String-Meta

https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/

https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/#best-practices-for-communicating-language-and-direction

richard: question, one approach is to require say HTML
... can add directional information in HTML in your string
... and doc says we don't recommend this

addison: try to say "probably a terrible idea"

richard: if using metadata, dont you need a closed system in same way?
... need to be more explicit that this is an idea

AOB?

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