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WoT-IG/WG

23 Jan 2019

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner, Soumya_Kanti_Datta, Taki_Kamiya, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis, Kunihiko_Toumura, Matthias_Kovatsch, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Yousuke_Nakamura, Kazuaki_Nimura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Ege_Korkan
Regrets
Chair
McCool, Matthias
Scribe
kaz

Contents


<McCool> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#23_Jan_2019

<scribe> scribenick: kaz

WoT workshop

Lagally: had a call one hour ago
... workshop cfp draft reformatted
... applied an appropriate css
... also talked about picture at the top
... and diagram of wot including several industries
... draft picture provided by Victor
... primarily discussion
... should be modified a bit
... to add cloud
... good starting point
... maybe a picture from the arch draft as well

draft cfp

Lagally: in addition, Sebastian gave some high-level agenda

draft schedule

Lagally: 27 May openday
... 28-29 workshop
... different companies to have demos on openday
... also invited keynote speakers
... from Siemens
... would check within Oracle as well

McCool: would see keynote speakers

Lagally: need to get official approval from W3M

Kaz: working on that

McCool: discussion during f2f?

Lagally: yes

McCool: any more quick updates?

Lagally: none

f2f

f2f wiki

McCool: goes through the wiki
... who to speak what?
... still reasonable to have only 30m for architecture?

Lagally: a bit short in the end

McCool: makes it 60m
... sebastian, what about TD?

Sebastian: identify issues, etc.
... what to solve, etc.
... need consensus

McCool: in that case, 120m minimum
... and
... TestFest stuff
... I can lead that
... relatively short
... 30m
... what would be features at risk?
... Elena for security testing results; 30m
... rechartering discussion
... 6month extension for WG and IG
... will lead this

Kaz: talking with W3M about IG extension

Matthias: please have the session on rechartering at some time I can easily join

McCool: ok

Lagally: note on sat
... some of the attendees might be going to leave earlier

McCool: maybe all the items for sat can be by noon

Lagally: would be good
... maybe we can start earlier?

Koster: have hard stop at 3pm

McCool: will add people's constraints here (on the agenda wiki)
... Elena, Zoltan, Daniel and Matthias
... CET; can attend up to 3pm
... want to finish by noon on sat
... Thursday
... rec track: arch (60m), td (120m), scripting (60m)
... notes: binding (60m), security/privacy (30m), security test (30m), security bp (20m)

Sebastian: we should spend some time for binding as well - td for 240m

McCool: add "organization" at the beginning of thu

Lagally: arch for 120m

McCool: openday
... speakers from NIST and OGC

Sebastian: we'll have testfest in the morning
... how long would it take
... also lunch time

McCool: starting at 1:30pm then?

Sebastian: would be careful about changing the time now

f2f registration

registration results

McCool: goes through the registration results

Kaz: George Percivall from OGC as an invited speaker
... and 2 guys from Toshiba are observers

McCool: ok
... and approved

Architecture

Lagally: had a call today
... a couple of proposals for the doc
... created a word doc based on the changes for review
... one from Toumura-san
... Kawaguchi-san
... and Matsukura-san
... editorial changes from Ari
... also security proposal from Elena
... extended deadline by Friday
... any proposals welcome for the f2f discussion

<mlagally_> https://github.com/mlagally/wot-architecture/blob/master/proposals/diff%20with%20all-PRs.docx

Lagally: feel free to take a look at the above integrated change doc
... will work on the branch to merge the changes
... also will merge Oracle proposal

McCool: ok

Lagally: and we want to use the first 30m from the TD call for the final review before f2f

Scripting

McCool: discussion about browser or not

issue 158

zoltan's question (member-only)

Zoltan: node-only description is not good for browser implementation
... would like input from people
... first from the group
... expectation from the scripting spec
... the way forward would be making it a group Note
... can be an NPM document maybe
... however, we could make changes to make the spec draft better fit browsers
... generated some presentation slides (URL within the above message)
... is there an opensource implementation?
... we have a number of participants in the group
... would ask for opinions

McCool: how to proceed?
... can generate some formal questionnaire?
... main question and subsidiary question
... today or tomorrow

Zoltan: people are implementing WoT
... would like to know what kind of scripting mechanism people are using

Kaz: I can create a WBS questionnaire if the questions are clear

Zoltan: can send questions and options

Kaz: also we can talk with W3C Management guys like Philippe

TD

Sebastian: did some changes for TD model
... default value, etc.
... major changes from last week
... how to set up tests?
... Ege may have insight
... set up some configuration for next week

McCool: testing details for the next hour
... bunch of issues on duplicated IDs

Ege: people can check things manually
... and automatic tool also can be updated

McCool: talk about the details during the test call later
... data schema for payload, etc., to be reviewed
... one question, extended assertion section for the TD draft
... discussion at f2f
... did data schema assertions as well
... Koster might want to look into protocol topics
... anything else?

(none)

ITU liaison

McCool: got a liaison letter
... need to look at that
... people are also welcome to review it
... review during f2f as well

Binding

McCool: any update?

Koster: no

McCool: some discussion on one data model on Sat

Koster: that's fine

Security

McCool: not much report
... other than test plan by Elena
... first look during the f2f next week
... testing plan deliverable as a separate note
... document testing procedure and appropriate tools
... we need actual implementation

AOB?

McCool: anything?

(none)

[adjourned; convene in 10mins]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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