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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

06 Dec 2018

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Bert, David, Fuqiao, Katy, addison, atsushi, r12a, JcK
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison

Contents


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Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-748?

<trackbot> action-748 -- Bert Bos to Also review credentials spec -- due 2018-08-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/748

close action-748

<trackbot> Closed action-748.

action-762?

<trackbot> action-762 -- Addison Phillips to Comment on temporal and 3339 etc etc in ecma-402 -- due 2018-10-29 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/762

close action-762

<trackbot> Closed action-762.

action-763?

<trackbot> action-763 -- Richard Ishida to Contact koji about garnering implementer support for eai -- due 2018-10-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/763

close action-763

<trackbot> Closed action-763.

superseded by my attending meeting with whatwg

action-765?

<trackbot> action-765 -- Richard Ishida to Contact nayef/muhammed for next steps in arranging translations, etc. -- due 2018-10-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/765

close action-765

<trackbot> Closed action-765.

action-766?

<trackbot> action-766 -- Addison Phillips to Survey for an hour earlier time for wg call vs. current set up -- due 2018-11-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/766

close action-766

<trackbot> Closed action-766.

Info Share

jck: in addition to work on eai
... major flap in ietf about how they do i18n
... recommendations not being picked up

david: reviewing work by colleagues
... in a css class id, included a cowboy emoji
... it actually works on most browsers

richard: if you go here

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/tests/#other

richard: there's a new section in test suite
... index page, "exploratory"
... justification and letter spacing

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-tests/results/exploring-justify-space

richard: if you click justification
... there are no results
... these are exploratory tests you can use to see if things work
... can add own tests

addison: that is extremely useful

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/pickers/vai/

richard: there is now a Vai picker available
... syllabic script with 300 or so characters
... slightly odd setup
... might want table view
... this is version 23

RADAR and Active Work Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

richard: fantasai trying to finish css text by end of year

addison: agenda item for next week to review css text

<scribe> ACTION: richard: change the date used in the member page for the meeting info

<trackbot> Created ACTION-767 - Change the date used in the member page for the meeting info [on Richard Ishida - due 2018-12-13].

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

richard: mongolian layout TF kicked off
... katy doing some nice work on redesigning the article format
... look at it next week perhaps?

katy: early mock up currently

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-html-css-normalization-TEST.en

richard: this isn't really representative, but shows a couple of elements of what she did

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-html-language-declarations-TEST.en

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-byte-order-mark-TEST.en

What time is this meeting at?

proposed: 2 hours earlier?

addison to follow with email

input type=email change proposals #607

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/607

jck: two observations about left hand side
... first is procedural, a great deal of work from universal acceptance
... has demonstrated that there are issues
... there is a doc some of us are working on, which describes universal acceptance
... has a lot of errors currently
... second is do not interpret a working paper from a participant of universal acceptance as a doc from ICANN
... probably made an error allowing unrestricted unicode in LHS
... difficulties would be less if emails not used as identifers outside email

addison: should we kick can while eai works on it?

jck: diff between someone else's address vs. your own, generate vs. accept
... need to work on generate side, narrow it down to unicode identifier rules for example

addison: that's the crux here. html on the accept side

jck: nudge down road until there is a specific proposal?

richard: in former discussion in bugzilla
... why is html spec trying to do the validation
... some folks on list think maybe don't enforce that?
... also suggested two types, one draconian ascii-only and the other "real world"

addison: type=email would be the first one, I believe

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: richard: change the date used in the member page for the meeting info
 

Summary of Resolutions

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