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Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

05 Sep 2018

Attendees

Present
janina, Léonie, (tink), Irfan_Ali, Becka11y, jonny-james, Chris_, MichaelC, gottfried, Joanmarie_Diggs, IanPouncey, JF
Regrets
Chris, Leonie
Chair
janina
Scribe
gottfried

Contents


<scribe> scribe: gottfried

Agenda Review & Announcements

TPAC 2018 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2018

Janina: Time with web platforms earlier.
... Working on setting up poersonalization task force.

<scribe> ... New drafts are in the pipeline.

UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: Proposal for math input.

CSS Update

Ian: Session in CSS wg meeting for accessibility?
... Useful would be call for people to get involved in the CSS tf.
... Could be 1 or 1.5 hours with the wg.

Janina: Yes, we should have a conversation with CSS and APA.

Ian: Number of CSS tf still pretty small. Making progress.
... Maybe sit down over lunch with people from CSS wg.

Janina: Better APA session than lunch: lunch can be noisy.
... Analysis would be useful: how many things have we raised? How many have got a response of any kind?
... What are the longer outstanding issues?

John: I can put out a call for volunteers. What skills are you looking for?
... There is a real lack of good documentation.

Ian: Email was sent earlier this year.
... Basic is going through CSS modules, identifying a11y concerns.

John: Will try to find people internally.

Ian: Invite Rossen and Chris Lilley?

Michael: Rossen is out of scope.

Ian: Could somebody be co-facilitator?
... Will reach out to Chris and Alan.
... Hope that we can meet them at TPAC.
... Do we have time in the APA agenda?

Janina: Yes.

Ian: Better off than last year, but still some way to go.

Janina: Can you pull together a summary where we are?

Ian: Yes.

Janina: If soon, might help to get people into the conversation even before TPAC.
... Will look at the Sapporo minutes.

<MichaelC> Sapporo meeting page

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2015/APA

Janina: Lot of discussion about navigation in that meeting.

<MichaelC> Sapporo day 1: https://www.w3.org/2015/10/29-apa-minutes

<MichaelC> Sapporo day 2: https://www.w3.org/2015/10/30-apa-minutes

Michael: Thu has a CSS topic.

Janina: Might have been Fri morning in Sapporo.

Michael: We failed to get a header in the minutes.

Ian: We have a new person:

<IanPouncey> Amy Carney

new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8

action-2177?

<trackbot> action-2177 -- Jason White to Review web authentication in response to wide review request -- due 2018-08-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2177

action-2176?

<trackbot> action-2176 -- Janina Sajka to Review web authentication in response to wide review request -- due 2018-08-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2176

Janina: still pending

action-2174?

<trackbot> action-2174 -- Janina Sajka to Draft responses to page visibility level 2 actions -- due 2018-08-01 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2174

action-2170?

<trackbot> action-2170 -- Ian Pouncey to Review css fonts module level 4 -- due 2018-05-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2170

Ian: I need to raise an issue with max. font sizes on this.

Michael: So keep this open.

action-2163?

<trackbot> action-2163 -- Ian Pouncey to Manage review of css basic user interface module level 4 -- due 2018-01-10 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2163

Ian: I have reviewed and concur with Leonie's points.
... Let's finish the investigation on that.

Michael: Talking about level 3?
... Still need to look at level 4 issues.

action-2150?

<trackbot> action-2150 -- Janina Sajka to Review a sample of specifications to analyse their security and privacy sections. -- due 2017-10-04 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2150

Janina: Should do this before TPAC.

action-2132?

<trackbot> action-2132 -- Michael Cooper to Make a fuss about algorithmic specs -- due 2017-05-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2132

Michael: I have done some fuss about it - not sure what more to do.

Janina: Maybe share with horizontal review groups?
... Example of why we need some help to better support our review work.
... Assume that they have the same issue.

Michael: Could say: Prioritize developers over other readers?

Janina: They should explain what they do in clear technical English, not just in specification.

<MichaelC> close action-2132

<trackbot> Closed action-2132.

Michael: Action is ongoing through horizontal work.

action-2117?

<trackbot> action-2117 -- Janina Sajka to Check our checklist list against ISO/IEC 30071-1 -- due 2017-03-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2117

Gottfried: This standard is now under FDIS vote. It is about organizations making their processes so that their products will be accessible.

<MichaelC> close action-2117

<trackbot> Closed action-2117.

Janina: I think we can drop it.

action-2071?

<trackbot> action-2071 -- Shane McCarron to Notify apa and aria editors and possibly wai-ig about adding A11Y checking to the respec linting capability -- due 2016-07-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2071

<MichaelC> close action-2071

<trackbot> Closed action-2071.

action-2613?

<trackbot> Sorry, but action-2613 does not exist.

<MichaelC> close action-1613

<trackbot> Closed action-1613.

action-1613?

<trackbot> action-1613 -- Michael Cooper to Send starter discussion to pf editors about w3c echidna -- due 2015-04-08 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1613

Michael: Too much time needed.

<MichaelC> close action-1499

<trackbot> Closed action-1499.

action-1499?

<trackbot> action-1499 -- Michael Cooper to Document process to ensure edits across specs kept in sync via action trading -- due 2014-08-27 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1499

action-1438?

<trackbot> action-1438 -- Michael Cooper to Set up auto publish to GH Pages for editors' drafts https://pages.github.com -- due 2014-10-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1438

Michael: Did it

<MichaelC> close action-1438

<trackbot> Closed action-1438.

action-1176?

<trackbot> action-1176 -- Michael Cooper to Look into a bot to count how busy various mailing lists are, so we can determine which groups are being active and need a closer look -- due 2013-03-19 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1176

Janina: Could be useful, especially for community group.

<MichaelC> close action-1120

<trackbot> Closed action-1120.

action-1120?

<trackbot> action-1120 -- Michael Cooper to Get spec sanity check generator to handle required states and properties, not just supported, and ideally same for UML model -- due 2012-11-01 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1120

action-934?

<trackbot> action-934 -- Michael Cooper to Create a PFWG Gantt chart for ARIA 1.0, ARIA 1.1, Indie UI -- due 2012-02-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/934

<MichaelC> close action-934

<trackbot> Closed action-934.

action-930?

<trackbot> action-930 -- Janina Sajka to Get PFWG to work on requirements for the various CSS positioning modules -- due 2012-01-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/930

Michael: OBE?

Ian: It is subsumed.
... by general work on implications on positioning.

action-929?

<trackbot> action-929 -- Janina Sajka to Get PF to identify user preferences against which CSS might want to run media queries for personalization -- due 2012-01-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/929

<MichaelC> close action-930

<trackbot> Closed action-930.

<MichaelC> close action-929

<trackbot> Closed action-929.

action-788?

<trackbot> action-788 -- Michael Cooper to tracker forms (new action and new issue) should be made accessible; label form elements -- due 2012-03-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/788

<MichaelC> close action-309

<trackbot> Closed action-309.

action-309?

<trackbot> action-309 -- Michael Cooper to Create an automated index of meeting minutes, in hopes search engines can therefore find an make searchable -- due 2012-04-01 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/309

Janina: Now that are minutes are public, we can just use Google.
... Talking about RQTF. Knowledge domain is interesting.
... Voice map expressions.
... CAPTCHA doc is moving forward.
... Working on comments. Expecting another publication before tpac.

new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

<MichaelC> CSS Cascading and Inheritance Level 4

Michael: We have a note on cascading level 3. Do we need to review level 4?

Ian: I can review if needed.

<MichaelC> CSS Display Module Level 3

Michael: Went to CR at end of Aug. Urgent now if we have comments.

Ian: Will review.

Other Business

Janina: Adjourned.
... Back next week.

rsagent, draft minutes

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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Default Present: janina, Léonie, (tink), Irfan_Ali, Becka11y, jonny-james, Chris_, MichaelC, gottfried, Joanmarie_Diggs, IanPouncey, JF
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