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WoT Security

25 Jun 2018

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Elena_Reshetova, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Kazuaki_Nimura
Regrets
Chair
McCool
Scribe
kaz

Contents


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previous minutes

prev minutes

McCool: looked at number of issues
... Elena's PR
... should be accepted
... I'll polish the PR update by the f2f
... (goes through the issues)
... brought issue 70 to the TD call as well
... fundamental assumption of URL is immutable
... complicated mechanism
... issue 99 was addressed
... issue 100
... issue 98
... whole bunch of discussions
... mixture of different level
... issue 64, again notification
... f2f
... actions all ongoing
... carry on discussion this week
... would update the action status
... "talk with security guys" to be updated as "IIC Security TF and W3C Web Security IG"
... "look into URI" is ongoing
... and one typo "would access this PR" to be fixed as "would accept this PR"
... accept the minutes?

(no objections)

[the previous minutes have been accepted with the above changes]

Plugfest Preparation

McCool: Matthias is working on the schedule

f2f agenda

McCool: (goes through the agenda)
... (changes the moderator of PlugFest Security Review to "McCool/Elena")
... (and Secure Implementation Recommendation to "Elena/McCool")

Elena: mentions her availability for the f2f
... can join webex after 11am Korea time

McCool: Monday/Tuesday in CET?

Elena: yes
... Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday after 11am Korea time

McCool: ideally Tuesday afternoon
... want to talk about the schedule

publication schedule

McCool: (updated the schedule)
... external review and finalization
... final version to be in Nov.
... if we can get extension, +3 months would make sense, i.e., Feb. 2019
... regarding external review
... should be Sep-Oct
... if we get 3-month extension, can be Dec-Jan
... would aim the first date (for the first round)
... first external review by Sep-Oct
... good first draft by Nov
... implication here is that we need to have
... first draft for review by end of Aug
... meaning in 2 months
... next release after the Bundang f2f, i.e., mid-July
... empty sections can be kicked out from the review

External review

McCool: talked with IIC guys
... Dave is the liaison contact for IIC
... would like security review
... actually 3 topics
... security topics, semantic interoperability, use cases/testbeds
... used to know one of the guys
... we can hopefully get something scheduled
... getting someone to review
... can negotiate the timing
... also W3C Web Security IG
... questions/comments?

(none)

Issues and PRs

* PR 104

McCool: would open a new PR
... working->master 2018.06.25
... update, prior to Bundang plugfest
... can merge this?

(no objections)

McCool: merges PR 104

PR 104 merged

* Issue 102

McCool: (adds comments to issue 102)

issue 102

McCool: should cover both security and privacy

* issue 100

issue 100

McCool: authorize users
... then mitigate privacy issues
... associate new things
... comments?

Elena: no

* issue 98

issue 98

McCool: custom login page
... you have to put parameters
... we need to do something about this
... one of the issues
... associate semantic meanings
... need to be able to associate common variables
... URL template kind of assume the same
... annoying assumption

[[ parameters with fixed names that the system "knows" mean certain things. But then you run into the problem of what to do it those names don't match what is needed in the query parameter (eg if the "special name" in the TD is "password" but the API needs the query parameter "pw"... I have to look to see if there are URI templates that let you separately specify the name and the value, as I mentioned in the meeting.

]]

* issue 97

McCool: suspended issue

issue 97

McCool: would put a label
... (adds a new label of "SUSPENDED")
... will leave open but suspend action on it unless we see an actual use case
... marked as "SUSPENDED" which means "won't fix unless someone comes up with a use case that needs it"

* issue 94

issue 84

McCool: potentially superseded by security by IIC

* issue 81

issue 81

McCool: think this is resolved but we should wait until after the Bundang plugfest
... and implementation feedback from Matthias
... one issue is dealing with both protocol-aware proxies (e.g., HTTP Proxy) and transparent (application-level) proxies
... may require different strategies

* issue 80

issue 80

McCool: a little bit old

* issue 77

issue 77

McCool: Matthias suggested we merge this issue with issue 80
... need to leave it open until we talk with Matthias again

* issue 76

issue 76

McCool: maybe we can close this?
... will leave interledger out in this version
... not clear interledger in particular will also be standardized in time
... maybe next version

Kaz: do we want to add some specific label for that purpose?

McCool: (adds "DEFERED" label)

* issue 75

issue 75

McCool: suspended
... (adds "SUSPENDED" label)

* issue 72

issue

McCool: documentation thing

* issue 71

issue 71

McCool: (responds to @jasonnovak on the GH issue 71)

* issue 70

issue 70

McCool: immutable hardware identifies
... there was some discussion about this
... unique identifier by hash would be easier to clarify the dependency
... have to have update mechanism
... things can identify who get access, etc.
... another counter proposal by linked data community
... would keep this issue open at the moment
... bunch of stuff to look at
... maybe next time we should talk about issue 67
... any questions? concerns?

(none)

McCool: we should discuss privacy mitigation
... and may discuss proposals by the main call on Wednesday
... will move to adjourn the call

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

[ONGOING] ACTION: mccool to write a short proposal on what security tools to use for the next plugfest
[ONGOING] ACTION: mccool to talk with IIC Security TF and W3C Web Security IG about testing/validation timeline
[ONGOING] ACTION: mccool to work on issue 70 (Require Not Exposing Immutable Hardware Identifiers?)
[ONGOING] ACTION: mjkoster/elena to review examples in the security spec
[ONGOING] ACTION: mccool to look into URI templates (RFC6570) for issue 98
 

Summary of Resolutions

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