W3C

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WoT IG/WG

13 Jun 2018

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Zoltan_Kis, Matthias_Kovatsch, Graeme_Coleman, Michael_Koster, Taki_Kamiya, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Takeshi_Sano, Daniel_Peintner, Federico_Sismondi, Michael_McCool, Darko_Anicic, Toru_Kawaguchi, DarkoAnicic, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Barry_Leiba, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Sebastian_Kaebisch
Regrets
Chair
Matthias, McCool
Scribe
mjkoster, kaz

Contents


<kaz> scribenick: mjkoster

Agenda bashing

<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda

Quick updates

Matthias: next meeting is a 1.5 hour combined plugfest+testing

McCool: meeting with IIC to discuss liaisons, working on semantic interoperability and data modeling
... used the new summary presentation and talked about iot.schema.org wrt semantics

Matthias: does anyone have a relationship with IIC?

Taki: I am a member of several task groups
... they are working on a lot of testbeds
... they all support and work with each other
... first we need to propose WoT as part of their technical framework

Matthias: look for symbiotic opportunities to collaborate

<kaz> SmartThings report

Matthias: reminder on Prague plugfest results

Koster: submitted a results document

Matthias: it looks like a lot of overview

<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201806/

Koster: I used the Fujitsu template; maybe I need to edit again, will go fix it

Korea f2f

F2F registration results>

Matthias: registration reminder for the F2F, we have 22 registration
... planning logistics, lunch will be on us
... no catering for lunch, but we can go out or order in like the Prague PF
... Reminder to register even if you are participating remotely
... question #3 on the registration for remote participants

Kaz: it will be better to prepare for remote participation if we have registrations

McCool: please mark which sessions you are attending also, so we can structure the topics

Open day

<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_30_June-5_July_2018,_Bundang,_Korea#OpenDay

Matthias: we have 5 confirmed presentations, still waiting to hear from ETRI and TTA

McCool: IG/WG members can also present id there is something of broad interest

Matthias: anyone have any ideas now?

McCool: presentation on AI services

Matthias: OK, add to the list
... other ideas or anyone know about any ideas from others?

PlugFest infrastructure

Matthias: timeline for node-wot is end of the week for a new version with a first pass scripting API
... for Thing Directory, will have a serializer soon but not sure about the ontology
... please list any dependencies

McCool: validator will have dependencies

<McCool> McCool: it's not that the validator has dependencies, it is that it needs to be updated

<McCool> ... Ege and I are working on it, hopefully have an update end of this week

<McCool> ... more detail in plugfest call

<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_30_June-5_July_2018,_Bundang,_Korea#Plenary_and_Breakouts

Matthias: need to add more details about the breakout and plenary sessions

Matthias: we have security and testing topics

Matthias: need to add items for scripting and TD to discuss the new status quo
... why things are as they are and the meaning of some of the new patterns
... if there are any issues or suggestions for changes, this is a good venue to discuss
... task force leads please review and add topics

TF report out

Matthias: still some inconsistencies in the spec, for example the ontology pattern

[TD] have added security metadata to TD

Sebastian: also discussed the new approach merging dataschema and interaction
... will discuss more about this on Friday
... fixing some bugs in the ontology file that are affecting the interaction class
... playground is being updated and may be ready by the end of the week to use the new TD serialization

<inserted> [Scripting API]

Matthias: scripting API?

Zoltan: text is being updated with security vocabulary
... PR #119 being worked on
... Zoltan and Daniel will both be out until the Plugfest
... node-wot is being updated

Matthias: new TD format and definitions will be included by the end of the week

McCool: will the implementation be in sync with TD?

Zoltan: yes, they are aligned on the TD spec

<kaz> [Binding]

<inserted> scribenick: kaz

Koster: last 2 weeks, discussion on new binding templates
... worked on design pattern for template of URI

Zoltan: going to update the TD/Binding documents
... most of the new changes
... who are going to implement them?
... make sure it's implementable
... for the upcoming plugfest in Korea

McCool: discussion during the PF call after this call?

Koster: sound like the next meeting
... draft copy by the end of this week

Matthias: preparation on template
... participation to fill in

Koster: yeah
... Matsukura-san has updated the template
... think that's ready though we can add items
... pretty straight forward

Lagally: people should upload TD files asap

<inserted> scribenick: mjkoster

Lagally: if there are TDs, we should upload them now and not wait until the last moment

Matthias: there is a dependency on node-wot to generate TDs, so will prioritize that work

McCool: security TF?

<kaz> [Security]

Matthias: discussed privacy mitigations
... also adding form-based auth
... current metadata is focused on http auth methods

<kaz> [Testing]

Matthias: testing?
... we can cover at the next call
... federico, is there an update on f-interop?

Federico: looking at the requirements for WoT testing
... there is a semantic testing tool from soumya
... working more on technical interoperability beyond basic data interop
... discussing new use cases and discussing with Dave about some new tools

Daniel: is there a mailing list or record of these discussions?

Federico: can include the testing mailing list in the discussion

Kaz: we should clearly identify which work is f-interop and which is W3C for communication scope

Federico: will discuss with Dave, but f-interop development is done on an open source license so the discussion should be available
... but the core of f-interop is not open source

McCool: can we treat f-interop as a member and participant?

Federico: let's discuss in the next hour
... it's not quite the same as the other participants
... we can encapsulate docker images but not our own implementations
... hoping Dave can join in the next test/plugfest meeting
... could do a quick update now

Matthias: only 10 minutes, we should adjourn and move to the next call

McCool: should we schedule the f-interop talk at the beginning of the PF/test meeting

Matthias: aob?
... adjourn

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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