trackbot, prepare teleconference

<r12a> regrets?

Agenda

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-706?

<trackbot> action-706 -- Addison Phillips to Publish charmod-norm for wide review -- due 2018-04-05 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/706

close action-706

<trackbot> Closed action-706.

action-710?

<trackbot> action-710 -- Richard Ishida to Announce charmod on home page, twitter and send to unicore -- due 2018-05-10 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/710

close action-710

<trackbot> Closed action-710.

Info Share

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

<scribe> ACTION: addison: follow up on pointer spec to see if they requested a review

<trackbot> Created ACTION-711 - Follow up on pointer spec to see if they requested a review [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-05-17].

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/4

<scribe> ACTION: addison: ping webvtt on our issues 4 and 12 since they have a CR transition with these open

<trackbot> Created ACTION-712 - Ping webvtt on our issues 4 and 12 since they have a cr transition with these open [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-05-17].

<scribe> ACTION: addison: make HTML53 review homework for next telecon

<trackbot> Created ACTION-713 - Make html53 review homework for next telecon [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-05-17].

WebAuthn update

peter: description of webauthn
... provides a way to integrate 2FA into web flows
... such as yubi key or a card or authentication
... secure logins or purchasing
... integrate work of fido alliance

<xfq> https://w3c.github.io/webauthn/

peter: relying party (RP) can call for authentication
... where issue came up is user or RP can set up display name
... dont' just want to use a key
... say instead "fubar inc"
... want to i18n
... display name might be non-ascii
... user can also set display name
... might also be non-ascii
... jeff hodges suggested peter (self)
... cited PRECIS spec
... whole stringprep
... reused for other things
... replaced stringprep because tied to unicode 3.2
... profiles in PRECIS
... password, username, nicknames/handles
... jeff know about it from ietf
... nickname profile very permissive
... suggested locking down tighter

addison: why is a limitation interesting or necessary?

<xfq> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/878

peter: truncation also an issue, at least 64 bytes

<r12a> bytes being the problem, better characters

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Awebauthn+

The q element

<xfq> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-the-q-element.en

<xfq> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/3636

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-the-q-element.en#css_styling

addison: need non-break spaces in fr-CH?

<r12a> ACTION: r12a to check spacing for french examples in q element article (for non-breaking)

<trackbot> Created ACTION-714 - Check spacing for french examples in q element article (for non-breaking) [on Richard Ishida - due 2018-05-17].

fuqiao: makes more sense than just using lang on root element
... works better with page with a large section in another language

richard: what next?
... in section on how quotes are used

<xfq> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/rendering.html#quotes

richard: goes through what you do with embedded language
... difference between quoting a document vs. embedding language
... better to have complete control
... add a para to say, if display what actually look like
... then give example
... maybe better to use charaters in this special case

<r12a> ACTION: r12a to add info to q element article about quoted text that should looks like original

<trackbot> Created ACTION-715 - Add info to q element article about quoted text that should looks like original [on Richard Ishida - due 2018-05-17].

<r12a> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/3636

richard: one of anne's question is seems most browsers align with html
... breaking to some extent

<r12a> Also, it seems most browsers align with HTML today so this would be a breaking change to some extent? That might be acceptable though since it should strictly speaking improve things and it's unlikely to actually break sites.

xfq: need test updates too

richard: we agree that changing whatwg spec right?
... currently have 2 versions of tests

addison: change spec and match the tests to that

<JcK> yes

change the spec?

<xfq> +1 to change the spec to :root:lang(CODE), :not(:lang(CODE)) > :not(q):lang(CODE)

jck: spec should change

<scribe> ACTION: addison: update whatwg issue 3636 to say we discussed and would like to proceed

<trackbot> Created ACTION-716 - Update whatwg issue 3636 to say we discussed and would like to proceed [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-05-17].

Microdata

https://github.com/w3c/microdata/issues/21

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/microdata/#i18n-considerations

<r12a> "Authors may prefer to convert their data to RDFa to take advantage of its better support for Internationalization."

<xfq> +1 on not object

"nolo contendre"

<scribe> ACTION: addison: update microdata issue 21 saying we don't object

<trackbot> Created ACTION-717 - Update microdata issue 21 saying we don't object [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-05-17].

Info Share

richard: south east asian TF growing
... quesitons up and growing

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/sealreq/issues

richard: some is actually maybe going to link up with issue in JLReq

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues/17

richard: might want to wrap on word basis or for a11y use spaces
... use explict word separator
... find an invisible and use word spacing property to set space around character
... if you want really good, apply without inserting special characters
... proerpty in this text, put spaces around words
... ability to make japanese show gaps around words
... likely useful for other scripts
... SEA list want ability to say on long compound words or on shorter words
... good to have a way to say that in CSS
... or on syllable because no dictionary avail

addison: same mechanisms; ability to spec dictionaries might be important too

richard: fix on ICU might be needed
... 14 people invited, will invite more
... WG agreed it would be good to plan to convert other lreq groups to have more of a network mission, to bring in more people

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