Wilco: We are expecting feedback on the
draft during and after CSUN.
... There is a bunch of issues that need to be delegated. We'd like to
touch on yesterdays manual accessibility testing symposium.
Shadi: I think we had a good turn out. OVer
70 registered. I think we had at least 40-50 actually attending.
... We had people from target organizations we wanted - US trusted
testers, French RGAA-program, Norwegian and Spanish institutions
developing test methodologies.
... Several others have company internal methodologies as well.
... Shadi: Also both followers of this work and fairly large new
organizations who are looking at internal methodologies.
... I was hoping for more comments and inputs to the ACT-work Most of
the questions were related to how things worked, so we switched the mode
to be more introductory than an in depth session about this.
... People want to know where to start, how to get into it, all the
acronyms and details.
Anne: Siteimproves feeling was that we
didn't get out of it exactly what we had expected. It was more of an
info meeting than a discussion session. We hope to get som etake-aways
on how to integrate manual testing into the framework. I am hoping that
it can lead to more people being involved in the ACT-work and providing
feedback in the time to come.
... I understand why the mode was switched as the need for information
is there.
Shadi: With references to an earlier online
symposium where we asked people to submit papers etc. In yesterdays
symposium we tried to take up some of the questions, and people were
asking questions more than providing input. Do you feel we should do a
follow up symposium?
... We need be specific in asking for position apers etc.
Wilco: I don't want to go into solutions before we have heard all voices.
Jay: Am fairly new to it. The forum was
mostly to discuss where we are going and what the plan is etc. It was a
bit hard to keep up for someone who is new to this.
... In terms of the organization the meeting was neatly conducting,
sticking to the agenda etc
MaryJo: More introductory than anticipated, but this is necessary for new peole. Definitely useful.
Wlico: Quite impressed by the turn up. Especially since this is an advanced topic where only a handful of people are doing this work around the world, so very impressed. Agree it was more of an introductory level which didn't quite get us the answers we were looking for. So what do we do now?
Wilco: We acomplished something I wasn't
expecting, so how to use this list of interested people.
... Do we need a follow up?
SES: I rec ommend a follow up meeting with a clearer purpose to get input
Wilco: We have sufficient resources in the ACT-work, but we need their feedback on some of the things we Developed
Anne: It might still be worth to find someone to do a test run of the framework
Wilco: Do we expect this group to write
rules?
... How may eople from the call do we expect to start using the
ACT-format
Shadi: I would think and hope the majority. We'd like to see more examples so people can see how it works in practice. Really understanding and being able to follow the format and framework
Mary-Jo: It is hard to say how many people will use it
Wilco: It should be our goal that the majority use the ACT-format. So I like the idea to get people to do test runs with the ACT-format to give us helpful feedback
Shadi: By October we need ot have most things ready including hoefully some examples
Wilco: We do not know well enough if this will work on man ual, so we want that feedback as soon as possible. We need it before we do our last draft
Shadi: Missed by scribe
Wilco: Can we get organizations to do a dry-run with the current ACT-format
Shadi: We can ask them. I know some have done and ran into problems. Might be due to lack of understanding ACT. There has been many changes since.
Wilco: We send out a request for organizations to help do a dry run of the urrent ACT-format. Especially in regards to their internal methodologies. We can assign eople to work with these organizations to resolve any issues
Shadi: Sounds good
Mary-Jo: Agree
<shadi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/Tools/webinar1#agenda
Shadi: What do people think of the diagram at slide number 9
<shadi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/Tools/slides/manual-ACT.pptx
Wilco: I quite like it. The tiny thing I
would change is say methodologies and test tools rather than the other
way around
... We need a name...a publicc trial run?
Shadi: We need updated template, review rocess and documentation updated.
<Wilco> https://auto-wcag.github.io/auto-wcag/pages/design/review.html
Wilco: We need volunteers to guide these
implementation tests
... We don't want the scenario where someone tries something, gets stuck
and abandons it.
Shadi: Like a buddy?
... Would be helpful if there is a person people can contact. Helpful
Wilco: So we need volunteers
... We can do volunteers when we have candidates/organizations for trial
run.
... Should we send out e-mail and ask for trial runs?
Shadi: I will try to send this out start next week together with captioned recordings etc
Wilco: We need to make it compelling. IT is safe and we will help you
Wilco: A bunch of issues we need people to work on
<Wilco> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+no%3Aassignee
Wilco: We need to tidy up our use of terms. They are used inconsistently, and not linked.
Mo: _You can assign 185 to me
Wilco: Develop rules reposityro. This is a
big one, so not one issue.
... I'll take the lead on that, ans I suspect me and Jay will be working
on that.
... Discuss if expectations are conformance statements. I'll assign it
to me
... I think that is it. Everything that is still open now, I will work
on distributing that work.