<laura> me too.
<steverep> Hey folks, let me know if and when you might be on WebEx
<laura> It looks like jim and I are on WebEx now
<steverep> Thanks, Laura. I should be able to join shortly.
<laura> Okay.
<laura> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/understanding_SC/results
<laura> Accepted WCAG 2.1 SC: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Accepted_WCAG_2.1_SC
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Comment_Summary_1-4-10
<shawn> Hi Alastairc and Allanj -- It looks like there is not a polycom in your room (Boardroom 2)
<shawn> I have informed the staff so hopefully there will be soon
<laura> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2017OctDec/0313.html
<laura> Overview of current comments: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2017OctDec/0313.html
<laura> Hi shawn
<laura> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
<laura> Comment Summary 1-4-10: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Comment_Summary_1-4-10
<scribe> scribe: allanj
proposals made. CfC requested
discussion bullet 1
Visible Trigger
Either the additional content does not obscure any essential content within the triggering user interface component, or the additional content can be closed or repositioned by the user;
sr: discussion on repositioning.
that is not the point of the SC. got some clarity on
repositioning. When is repositioning ok when the other
conditions cannot be met.
... dismissing hover content is still a bit of concern
... use case - error messages on validation. should not be an
issue.
<laura> Nov 6 Content on hover or focus AG minutes: https://www.w3.org/2017/11/06-ag-minutes.html#item07
<laura> https://www.w3.org/2017/11/06-ag-minutes.html#item05
<steverep> Plain language transformation of 1st bullet: The additional content can be dismissed by the user without moving focus or hover, unless the infromation is critical or it doesn't obscrure anything.
channeling Al Gilman - Author proposes, user disposes.
or information is an input error.
sr: could turn it into SC
language
... bullet 2 change handle to "hoverable"
<laura> Issue #565: SC Content on Hover or Focus: Hover/Focus to Hoverable/Persistent: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/565
sr: bullet 3, should appear on
hover. on focus is covered by 2.1.1. removed reference to how
the hover content is triggered. just say that hover content is
persistent.
... discussion on exception - tooltip
<laura> Laura: Would have liked title attribute be included but know that it will liklely be pushed to sliver.
<steverep> AG discussed exception at some length. Some folks take position that if SC is important, there should be no exception. We know others disagree.
<steverep> LVTF can simply take position that we'll accept it either way, but obviously prefer it without the exception.
<laura> +1
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