IRC log of personalization on 2017-10-23
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- agenda+ Proposal for personalization semantics and counter proposal https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2017Oct/0024.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2017Oct/0006.html
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- agenda+ tmetable https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2017Oct/0022.html
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- regrets: Jan, shari
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- +agenda updates. vodaphone and tpac https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/TPAC2017
- 16:10:52 [lisa]
- agenda+ updates. vodaphone and tpac https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/TPAC2017
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- agenda+ survey https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/101569/2017-10-12_priorities/results
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- 17:00:42 [lisa]
- starting a moment late
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- +present
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- present+
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- present+
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- regrets: Jan, shari, charles
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- present+
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- scribe: AndyHeath
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- present+
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1. "Proposal for personalization semantics and counter proposal https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2017Oct/0024.html and
- 17:04:40 [Zakim]
- ... https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2017Oct/0006.html" taken up [from lisa]
- 17:04:50 [lisa]
- present+
- 17:04:50 [AndyHeath]
- present+
- 17:04:51 [thaddeus]
- present+
- 17:05:00 [janina]
- chair: lisa
- 17:05:13 [AndyHeath]
- Agenda: 1
- 17:05:16 [jasonjgw]
- present+
- 17:05:51 [Roy]
- present+
- 17:05:53 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa had a counter proposal to moving forwards on the vocabulary
- 17:06:16 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa had some concerns with Michaels’ proposal
- 17:06:34 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: the structure is nice
- 17:07:35 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: We should run with it and try it but be prepared to go back if we find there are problems with it
- 17:08:35 [thaddeus]
- I think it sounds like a good starting point.
- 17:08:40 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: trouble could come in different wats - e.g. ARIA group could fail to accept it for semantics
- 17:08:58 [AndyHeath]
- s/wats/ways/
- 17:10:01 [AndyHeath]
- Michael: Wary about not making a decisoin but lets have a timeline for a decision rather than it dangling indefinitely
- 17:10:35 [AndyHeath]
- Micahel: I don’t see how the vocab affects implementation
- 17:10:45 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: shall we say by the next WD
- 17:11:57 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: Lets run with it - that’s like makinga decision - unless we hit an insoluble issue
- 17:12:19 [AndyHeath]
- s/makinga/making a/
- 17:12:23 [lisa]
- not insolveble just not elegently soverble or practictal
- 17:13:12 [AndyHeath]
- Michael: Ask the public at the next WD and make the decison by the WD after that
- 17:13:57 [AndyHeath]
- Michael: that allows us to collect evidence including implementor evidence
- 17:14:15 [lisa]
- propsal draft as a vocalary for now and Ask the public at the next WD and make the decison by the WD after that
- 17:15:04 [AndyHeath]
- Michael: make it clear “here’s how to do an ARIA implementation of that:
- 17:15:18 [lisa]
- +1
- 17:15:20 [janina]
- +1
- 17:15:21 [AndyHeath]
- +1
- 17:15:35 [lisa]
- any obections
- 17:16:04 [lisa]
- resolution: draft as a vocabulary for now and Ask the public at the next WD and make the decision by the WD after that
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2. "tmetable https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2017Oct/0022.html" taken up [from lisa]
- 17:16:36 [MichaelC]
- s/resolution:/RESOLUTION:/
- 17:17:18 [lisa]
- action: Lisa to send out cfc
- 17:19:15 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: thinking about timetable - over the next week Lisa and Charles work on drafting the first three items (ish) then ask for review
- 17:19:34 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: will have a couple of items a week to review
- 17:20:32 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: three items on a two week cycle - after the call if people are happy we will put them in the draft
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- q?
- 17:21:11 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: will only have those items to review not the whoile draft
- 17:21:59 [AndyHeath]
- We have consensus this seems to be a good plan
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3. "updates. vodaphone and tpac https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/TPAC2017" taken up [from lisa]
- 17:24:22 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: in Spain @ Inclusion Conference, vidaphone have sponsored c100 cog projects including loading own symbols. Plan to invite them to join the task forcr
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- s/forcr/force
- 17:25:16 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: there is a liink now to the TPAC page in Github
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- Janina: parent group is ARIA not APA
- 17:26:23 [AndyHeath]
- wil be some CSS duscusion 12 on Monday
- 17:26:40 [AndyHeath]
- if people are available be at APA by 11/12
- 17:27:17 [AndyHeath]
- Might be earlier than 111
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- s/111/11/
- 17:27:54 [thaddeus]
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- APA at TPAC: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017
- 17:28:35 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa - the page needs a litte sorting out
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- Lisa WILL PROBABLY be at TPAC
- 17:29:07 [AndyHeath]
- or will participate remotely
- 17:31:25 [AndyHeath]
- Michael - wait until some processes have gone through to edit
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4. "survey https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/101569/2017-10-12_priorities/results" taken up [from lisa]
- 17:33:03 [AndyHeath]
- Onlly had three responses to sruvey so far
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- So far only logs and misc flagged by anybody to deprioritise
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- s/So far only logs and misc flagged by anybody to deprioritise/So far only logs flagged by anybody to deprioritise/
- 17:35:57 [thaddeus]
- Since I recently joined I want to give a thorough review
- 17:35:57 [AndyHeath]
- Janina: didn’t have much to add to it
- 17:36:04 [MichaelC]
- q+
- 17:36:37 [AndyHeath]
- Thaddeus: will respond this week
- 17:36:46 [MichaelC]
- ack me
- 17:36:47 [AndyHeath]
- Andy: will respond this week
- 17:38:01 [lisa]
- q+
- 17:38:06 [lisa]
- ack q
- 17:38:39 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: Hopefully we will be able to put out a survey on what’s missing in the first few sections by Thursday
- 17:38:58 [lisa]
- zakim, next item
- 17:38:58 [Zakim]
- I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, lisa
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- ack l
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- zakim, next item
- 17:39:09 [Zakim]
- I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, lisa
- 17:39:25 [AndyHeath]
- Lisa: Anyone thinking of implementations?
- 17:40:25 [jasonjgw]
- q+
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- ack j
- 17:41:53 [lisa]
- thad and jason will look into impltions and more reserch that might be need
- 17:42:04 [thaddeus]
- yes
- 17:43:05 [lisa]
- if anyone feels we need extra or diffrent thing in the specification [lease say
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/10/23-personalization-minutes.html lisa
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