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Accessibility of virtual reality - preparation of findings.

jgw: Believe the draft is complete

sh: Found lots of discussion on concepts, but little actual research

jgw: Recalling observations from APA discussion this past spring, noted VR could impose similar obstacles to those experienced in physical environment

sh: Came across nothing like that, but it's a good point
... Came across a VR game that allows some adaptation
... Able Gamers
... Can do some digging to see whether anything exists

js: We should feel free to include open questions we believe are meritorious

jgw: S[pecific example was physically moving around well beyond movements to control a mouse, more like daily life movements
... Notes larger context is now the VR Workshop in December in Brussels:

https://www.w3.org/2017/09/webvr-authoring-workshop/

<jasonjgw> Janina suggests we have material that we wish to add, but this is timely as we expect Shadi may be in a position to represent our work at the WebVR workshop.

Wikipedia about Able Gamers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_AbleGamers_Foundation

<scott_h> AbleGamers Includification: https://www.includification.com/

<scott_h> Includification likely to have overlap with VR accessibility, especially with multiple interface,

jgw: Wonders whether we're exposing requirements on VR toolkits

jb: Suggest inviting Shadi and Dom to refine our focus specifically for the Workshop?

<jasonjgw> Janina: it's useful to find the right fit for the workshop of what we've developed, given the workshop's role in shaping ongoing VR activity at W3C.

Update: questions posed to Web Authentication Working Group and meeting arrangements at TPAC 2017.

jgw: Notes specific APA review has been requested
... Janina requested joint meeting at TPAC based on our 4 questions

<jasonjgw> Janina will continue discussions with Web Authentication WG with a view to a joint meeting at TPAC.

jgw: Notes we're invited to review the spec

<jasonjgw> Janina notes that she and I read the draft of this Web Authentication specification previously and suggests we should review it again. It's also relevant to work of the COGA Task Force, who will be invited to participate in the review.

jgw: Notes that authentication is an increasing issue in multiple environments currently

Update: revision of W3C Working Group Note, "Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA".

<jasonjgw> Janina is working on the draft. The material gathered by this Task Force provides additional information beyond what was already in the draft. It isn't clear waht to retain from the existing document (e.g., the discussion of federated identities as offering potentially valuable solutions).

sh: 1: Not that secure, especially any longer
... 2: Dev direction may make more inaccessible, image comparison
... 3: I am not a robot checkbox seems most accessible
... 4: Different authentication methods have emerged that could replace

jgw: Notes there are captcha service providers that can be used as third parties
... Role needs to be to identify the human i.e. interaction proof but not identify much about the human

<jasonjgw> Janina suggests that a secondary sharing of data - attestation that the user with a given identity - is human, may be a useful feature of a federated identity service.

sh: Back around 2011 social media required captcha, but no longer

jgw: Noting federated identity works to promote the service provider, in addition to the individual's advantage

RQTF Report at: http://w3c.github.io/rqtf/captcha-notes.html

<jasonjgw> Janina inquires whether we found background rationale for Google's current appraoch to captcha.

jb: How we use examples should be considered. Should at minimum start from general approach

sh: Notes gamining example, esp people unaccustomed to Latin charsets

jgw: Notes that any lit discussion of examples would call out pros and cons

Other topics of interest.

sh: WoT results delayed. Not sure when, now.
... Can talk about lit review, but not interviews and subject research

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