Permissions and Obligations Expression Working Group (Extra) Teleconference

<renato> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20170914

last meetings minutes

benws_: no objections - minutes are taken

Vote on Editors Drafts for Candidate Recommendation

renato: re IM: section 2.6.8 was split up into statements in the different section

ivan: (is the picky one) - what are the open issues on Github?

<renato> https://github.com/w3c/poe/issues

renato: they are all related to documents which should be voted on today

ivan: then this is ok
... a document sent to the W3C directors should mention that

benws_: any open issue anybody on this call want to raise
... has one: how best we link to the evaluation criteria?

<renato> status section: https://w3c.github.io/poe/test/implementors

renato: at the top of the IM there is a link in the Evaluation Report

ivan: ... and that's all what is required. And this includes also the exit criteria

benws_: is this how Ralph & Co will see the documents?

renato: yes

benws_: fine
... how to know what an implementer has to validate against?

ivan: the final recommendation will link "back" to the test results report

<ivan> Proposed: The WG requests the W3C Director to publish the model and the vocabulary documents as Candidate Recommendations.

<ivan> +1

+1

<benws_> +1

<Serena> +1

<victor> +1

<renato> +1

<CarolineB> +1

<LindaB> +1

<simonstey> +1

simonstey: can typos be changed?

RESOLUTION: The WG requests the W3C Director to publish the model and the vocabulary documents as Candidate Recommendations.

ivan: yes
... asked renato if the next steps are known?

renato: yes - submitting the request to the W3C directors

ivan: we need to agree on the test period of the CR
... minimal time for a test period is 4 weeks
... and the Proposed Recommendation can only be issued after the test period has closed
... people of this WG know better when they can deliver test results
... the PR should be issued in the first days of December

ivan: period between closing test period and issuing PR should be about 2 weeks
... as a result: the test period should close by mid-November
... potential testers are Thomson Reuters, INRA, IPTC/Michael/AP, WU Vienna/Simon
... and Victor
... that's it

<victor> validation description here: https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Validation

benws_: asked simonstey and victor : could you points us to Wiki pages or on Github for what should be used for the tests

<victor> shapes in the git

<simonstey> https://github.com/w3c/poe/tree/gh-pages/semantics/shacl

simonstey: there will be one document holding all the shapes - and a tester has to take them for checking

benws_: is the Wikipage the overall guideline for the tests?

simonstey: naja

<victor> _:bob odrl:assignerOf _:policy123

simonstey: a normalization is required to get a JSON-LD aligning with the IM
... then the validation should be run against the JSON object

renato: we need some written instruction for people who have not joined the discussion of this group

ivan: 2 more questions
... 1) is there a need to refresh the JSON-LD context and the ontology file

renato: yes, minor changes

Other documents to publish (eventually)

ivan: question 2: what other documents do we want to publish?
... now is a perfect time to work on such documents

benws_: wants to work on a Primer/Best Practices document

<renato> http://w3c.github.io/poe/rightsml/

benws_: a Formal Semantics should be created by simonstey and victor

<renato> http://w3c.github.io/poe/semantics/

<renato> http://w3c.github.io/poe/bp/

renato: asked michaelS: will IPTC deliver a RightsML profile

<simonstey> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Policy_Inference

michaelS: IPTC has plans

simonstey: re Formal Semantics: we have to check what should be covered by it,
... maybe something in the conflict resolution area
... more could be covered by the Best Practice document

benws_: suggest to talk to Sabrina and (?) about that issue

<victor> Simon's (and colleagues) paper in 2015? is a really good one which can be taken as basis; besides we have the progress Simon has just exposed

<victor> me

renato: re ivan: formal question regarding creating the CR document

ivan: provided the requested information

ivan: it is a habit to issue the Notes with the final Recommendation. The Rec will be published in about mid-February 2018

benws_: any open issues

renato: thanked michaelS and simonstey for the very detailled feedback on the document
... and thanks to victor for the implementation stuff.

ivan: are you renato or benws_ inclined to write a blog about getting the CR?

benws_: will do that

LindaB: is the information about the CR open to the public?

ivan: yes

<renato> yes

ivan: we should wait with blogs about ODRL until the CR has been published - late September, early October

<victor> exit

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