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Wonsuk: Patrick can you give us a summary on RSI TF?
PatrickB: unfortunately the
participation in the calls is not ideal but what we agreed on
was to have RSI day after our F2F in Burlingame
... an early order of business is to do search and replace of
ViWi with RSI in the specs
Ted: attendance issue may be partly due to the rotating schedule but first let's try sending reminders with specific topics and desired attendees for given topics
We need to:
* expand editors list
* focus on protocol and one preliminary domain - media?
* work to converge JSON structure of RSI with VSS
* publish a draft spec as a BG report
* recharter WG to take on RSI after completing VISS/VIAS
* identify domains we have appropriate resources to complete
Ted: The LBS domain is extremely
complex, we have a couple starts from Qing An and Jonas Schmidt
plus the work taking place in Genivi
... we want to get those people together. It will be easier
when we show momentum on RSI and at least one other
domain
... Specifically Qing An (Alibaba), Jonas Schmidt, Philippe
Colliot (PSA), Gunnar Andersson and others from Genivi
effort
... doubt we will get them at our F2F meeting at TPAC in
November
... I am speaking with Tomtom tomorrow, also trying to bring
Volvo in who I understand is involved in LBS at Genivi
Gururaja: I have been with Bosch
for 17+ years on vehicle networking and then car multimedia,
specfically HMI
... at Genivi I am leading the Application Framework Expert
Group
... in the coming days I expect to gain clarity and see where I
can contribute
Wonsuk: thank you, welcome
https://www.w3.org/community/autowebplatform/wiki/RSITaskForce
straw poll for attendees and agenda for RSI call tomorrow
Gunnar: you mentioned a next
specification for signals, did you mean the JSON structure for
the signals itself?
... have we done a full comparison to the WAMP protocol which
is well defined and has traction elsewhere
... what is the plan for moving forward with this
approach?
... synchronizing on the JSON would be helpful
PatrickB: regarding whether we
can use WAMP in RSI, I did some research back when we first
discussed it
... it is desgined more for broadcasting among brokers,
publishers and subscribers
... whereas in RSI we are doing point to point communication
instead of broadcast
... WAMP might be overkill for our purposes
... unsure if we would be able to use the same authorization,
urls, JSON structures
Gunnar: I am questioning why we
need to do things differently in automotive
... it would be in the group's interest to see what other
standards can be leveraged (eg WAMP)
Ted: it is certainly an option as
RSI advances and we generally should leverage existing
standards where they exist instead of recreating
... question is whether this is the best fit for this
aspect
Gunnar: if a specification has
features beyond what is needed, it might still be a good match
... there are interesting features in crossbar.io for
WAMP
... it provides some additional features besides WAMP including
a REST bridge
Propose to cancel RSI call tomorrow
given EU participants won't be attending
Wonsuk: typically we will try to send agenda with expected participants for specific topics in advance?
Ted: yes example VSS with Rudi and Patrick or WAMP with Patrick and Gunnar
Wonsuk: we should start discussion by email on which groups we should try to meet with at TPAC
Ted: that was part of a previous
email I started and will reply to that thread
... it would be great to increase coordination with others like
AGL
Gunnar: I think they are following
Ted: besides signals I think the next big area we should coordinate with Genivi is on LBS
Gunnar: we have some supportive technology for LBS coming out soon
Ted: it would be great to get pointers and ideally navigation engineers, we likely will want to get this going in early Spring
Ted: Ian Jacobs (Web Payments
Lead) and I are still trying to get participation commitments
from some key stakeholders before launching
... we had some setbacks and expected to have started up the TF
by now
... I will keep the group informed. Do please let me know who
within your organizations may be participating
... we hope to launch before TPAC
Wonsuk: sounds good
... I want to be involved in that activity
Wonsuk: we should provide more
information to prospects for this group
... BG page is useful for this
... any items people want to share please propose them
Ted: two things, first if you are
interested in writing a blog post for that page please draft it
and send to chairs or I to publish
... second I am getting more MarComm and BusDev assistance and
the materials being worked on will be available for
distribution and contribute updates to that page