W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

07 Aug 2017

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Wilco, Anne, SteinErik, Charu, Shadi
Regrets
Chair
Wilco
Scribe
Charu

Contents


Meeting logistics https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/telco/

Shadi: the logistic information has changed, there was some fruadulant use. Information is on the survey page, please take care to not share the information

Ann: i may have to drop early

Wilco: provide comments on github is preffered

Stein Erik: Need a till more context on the pull request

Ann: usually the original intent to change something is always not very clear

Wilco: i will bring this up in our planing

Accessibility support https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/101

Ann: does it always has to be 1 rules or could be more
... we do like the rule group idea generally

Stein Erik: the one rule group map to 1 SC?

Wilco: For most rules there could be 1 to 1 mapping but there could be scenerios where that is not true

Ann: sometime there may be a need to exapnd the rule to fit more checks
... Can we address that with rule versioning

Wico: can you provide an example?

Ann: If we have a act rule that checks for headings and then we could have wai-aria techinques that do that
... so we could add the new technique to the rule group

Stein Erik: if there is a 1 to 1 mapping the rule can be in the rule group and new techniques can be added

Wilco: Add a editorial note to discuss with the planing, add an editorial note to explore a group have multiple passes or the group have only one rule
... Shadi do you have any comments

Shadi: we looked at it, it is fine for now

Wilco: i will merge it

What rules to use as examples https://auto-wcag.github.io/auto-wcag/pages/rules.html

<Wilco> https://auto-wcag.github.io/auto-wcag/pages/rules.html

<Wilco> https://wilcofiers.github.io/act-rules/

Wilco: We want to publish couple of rules in the next draft and i have an example for that
... the point is to show what the rules will look like
... instead of picking rules from WCAG, it will be best to write our own rule to fit the format
... and publish on W3C
... so if we can take a rule to write prefebaly a rule not written by WCAG

Shadi: Why do we not want to start with what WCAG has

Wilco: I think we will need to take what auto-wcag rules to fit the new format so we need to do that

Shadi: Why take what the org has written and not the auto-wcag?

Wilco: Each org will be more familliar with what they have written

Shadi: We should cordinate what rules will be implemented
... so i propose we start with auto-wcag, the agreement will be quicker

<Wilco> https://wilcofiers.github.io/act-rules/rules/ACT-R2.html

Wilco: i could take one from auto-wcag, update it to how it is implemented in Axecore

Stein Erik, i am not sure what the implication are, we will need to discuss this before we commit

Wilco: The reason i am suggesting we take our own rules so we get some experience to wite and see if it works for us

get Wilcos point to write are own to get experience

Ann: we have the same concern, Erick and i are on this call, but the folks that write our rules are not

Wilco: We are out of time, i want to publish the draft this month

Shadi: We need to work togather, plan to use auto-wcag as well as write our own

<Wilco> https://auto-wcag.github.io/auto-wcag/pages/rules.html

Shadi: Can we agree on some auto-wcag rules to work with

Wilco: We can go through this list and pick a few

<Wilco> https://auto-wcag.github.io/auto-wcag/rules/SC2-2-1+SC3-2-5-meta-refresh.html

Shadi: we want to ick some thing not to complex to avoid same discussion as i auto-wcag

Ann: we have looked at the language rule to make it more understandable

Shadi: We could do a survey on what to pick

Ann: Nice to have something with more then one step

Wilco: have a short list here which we can put them on survey and get feedback on which to use

ACT review process https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/ACT_Review_Process

Shadi: I did not see major issues, comments are more that this is the right direction.
... I was concerned, there were very few comments
... Wilco what is your confidence level given the feedback

Wilco: I feel we are in the right direction, may be add more details on the steps

Shadi: yes, can make it more clear
... Is this something everyone would commit to and go through the process

Wilco: i do not see my comments, i will add it
... We are constantly updating our tools apart from the published standards, so we will have different development paths going own, how do we sync it

Shadi: good point, what is your incentive to go back and update the rule

Wilco: if we publish our test cases that can be pulled by others then if we change or update something others might want to make the update or change

Shadi: So if deque has a test case and a rule then that might drive others to do tha same
... will be not there next 2 Mondays, but i will put something togather for review
... We want to go to the publish mode and come back for review

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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