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Shadi: the logistic information has changed, there was some fruadulant use. Information is on the survey page, please take care to not share the information
Ann: i may have to drop early
Wilco: provide comments on github is preffered
Stein Erik: Need a till more context on the pull request
Ann: usually the original intent to change something is always not very clear
Wilco: i will bring this up in our planing
Ann: does it always has to be 1 rules or
could be more
... we do like the rule group idea generally
Stein Erik: the one rule group map to 1 SC?
Wilco: For most rules there could be 1 to 1 mapping but there could be scenerios where that is not true
Ann: sometime there may be a need to exapnd
the rule to fit more checks
... Can we address that with rule versioning
Wico: can you provide an example?
Ann: If we have a act rule that checks for
headings and then we could have wai-aria techinques that do that
... so we could add the new technique to the rule group
Stein Erik: if there is a 1 to 1 mapping the rule can be in the rule group and new techniques can be added
Wilco: Add a editorial note to discuss with
the planing, add an editorial note to explore a group have multiple
passes or the group have only one rule
... Shadi do you have any comments
Shadi: we looked at it, it is fine for now
Wilco: i will merge it
<Wilco> https://auto-wcag.github.io/auto-wcag/pages/rules.html
<Wilco> https://wilcofiers.github.io/act-rules/
Wilco: We want to publish couple of rules
in the next draft and i have an example for that
... the point is to show what the rules will look like
... instead of picking rules from WCAG, it will be best to write our own
rule to fit the format
... and publish on W3C
... so if we can take a rule to write prefebaly a rule not written by
WCAG
Shadi: Why do we not want to start with what WCAG has
Wilco: I think we will need to take what auto-wcag rules to fit the new format so we need to do that
Shadi: Why take what the org has written and not the auto-wcag?
Wilco: Each org will be more familliar with what they have written
Shadi: We should cordinate what rules will
be implemented
... so i propose we start with auto-wcag, the agreement will be quicker
<Wilco> https://wilcofiers.github.io/act-rules/rules/ACT-R2.html
Wilco: i could take one from auto-wcag, update it to how it is implemented in Axecore
Stein Erik, i am not sure what the implication are, we will need to discuss this before we commit
Wilco: The reason i am suggesting we take our own rules so we get some experience to wite and see if it works for us
get Wilcos point to write are own to get experience
Ann: we have the same concern, Erick and i are on this call, but the folks that write our rules are not
Wilco: We are out of time, i want to publish the draft this month
Shadi: We need to work togather, plan to use auto-wcag as well as write our own
<Wilco> https://auto-wcag.github.io/auto-wcag/pages/rules.html
Shadi: Can we agree on some auto-wcag rules to work with
Wilco: We can go through this list and pick a few
<Wilco> https://auto-wcag.github.io/auto-wcag/rules/SC2-2-1+SC3-2-5-meta-refresh.html
Shadi: we want to ick some thing not to complex to avoid same discussion as i auto-wcag
Ann: we have looked at the language rule to make it more understandable
Shadi: We could do a survey on what to pick
Ann: Nice to have something with more then one step
Wilco: have a short list here which we can put them on survey and get feedback on which to use
Shadi: I did not see major issues, comments
are more that this is the right direction.
... I was concerned, there were very few comments
... Wilco what is your confidence level given the feedback
Wilco: I feel we are in the right direction, may be add more details on the steps
Shadi: yes, can make it more clear
... Is this something everyone would commit to and go through the
process
Wilco: i do not see my comments, i will add
it
... We are constantly updating our tools apart from the published
standards, so we will have different development paths going own, how do
we sync it
Shadi: good point, what is your incentive to go back and update the rule
Wilco: if we publish our test cases that can be pulled by others then if we change or update something others might want to make the update or change
Shadi: So if deque has a test case and a
rule then that might drive others to do tha same
... will be not there next 2 Mondays, but i will put something togather
for review
... We want to go to the publish mode and come back for review