Permissions and Obligations Expression Working Group Teleconference

<victor> hi!

<renato> Hi all

<renato> we are waiting for Ben to start his webex

<renato> its live!

<ivan> scribenick: CarolineB

<renato> Approve: https://www.w3.org/2017/07/17-poe-minutes

approve minutes from meeting two weeks ago

<scribe> ACTION: Minutes accepted [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/07/31-poe-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Error finding 'Minutes'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/track/users>.

RESOLUTION: minutes accepted

Consequence remedy

<renato> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Duty_Relations

Simon and Serena have made a proposal

with some examples

<renato> https://github.com/w3c/poe/issues/209

renato: need to clear up semantics
... you can ignore the duty and fulfil the remedy??

lindaB: example?

benws: you still have to fulfill the duty

renato: believes the group should accept the proposal, It's sueful. We just need to be crystal clear about semantics

<victor> Second objection: the consequence may not be initiated by the breacher, so it should be not a "duty" perhaps.

victor: consequence is at someones discretion - doesn't have to be applied

renato: will try and fit it into the information model

<renato> Proposal: Accept the Duty Relations described at https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Duty_Relations

<ivan> 0

+1

<renato> +1

<ivan> +1 for ben

benws: +1

<renato> Ben +1

<victor> +0.50

lindaB: +1

RESOLUTION: Accept the Duty Relations described at https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Duty_Relations

<renato> I18N feedback https://github.com/w3c/poe/issues/212

Horizontal review feedback

sorry

i'm out of it

<renato> Policy metadata: https://w3c.github.io/poe/model/#provenace

<renato> are the strings in DC properties used for comparison?

<ivan> scribenick: renato

ivan: is it used in search?
... should be normalised if used as search target? or not used for that purpose..and close the issue...

proposal: close issue 212 as ODRL DC properties will not be used in comparative search

<ivan> +1

+1

linda +1

linda: ask I18N for any specific uses?

ivan: they probably won't given any more info
... "we don'texpect these properties for search"

RESOLUTION: close issue 212 as ODRL DC properties will not be used in comparative search

<ivan> https://github.com/w3c/poe/issues/213

ri to fix 213

https://github.com/w3c/poe/issues/214

RI to fix (use attributes in XML)

profiles

https://github.com/w3c/poe/issues/210

Proposal: Profiles to be made mandatory for all policies

<ivan> +1

linda +1

<victor> +0 (I have not studied the case in detail)

Ben +1

michael +1

0

RESOLUTION: Profiles to be made mandatory for all policies