W3C

Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference

31 July 2017

Meeting Minutes

<antoine> I can scribe

Approval of last week’s minutes

alejandra: I am still waiting on seeing the acknowledgement on the catering for the Oxford minutes

Karen: we’re still working on the F2F minutes.

If there are no adjustments to last week’s teleconference minutes let’s vote on that

<SimonCox> was not present

<SimonCox> 'NOTUC' == No Objection to Unanimous Consent

<alejandra> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌07/‌24-dxwg-minutes

Resolved: we accept the minutes for 24 July 2017 teleconference.

Karen: I don’t see any new people today, so I think we’ve covered everyone.

next F2F

Our next face to face will be at TPAC on November 9-10, which will take place near to San Francisco airport.

Everyone should note that there is a fee to support W3C’s hosting costs for TPAC.

See https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌11/‌TPAC/

Use cases and requirements

<kcoyle> http://‌htmlpreview.github.io/?https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌blob/‌gh-pages/‌ucr/‌index.html

Rob acknowledges the contribution by Jaroslav who can’t attend todays call

Rob: I’ve started on the de-duplication process, and there is a fair bit of work to be done there, and would appreciate a sanity check before I get too stuck in

There are some notes in the draft that describe the main discussion points.

<Zakim> RubenVerborgh, you wanted to ask how to edit

Probably two days more work on the de-duplication of requirements

Ruben: if we have edits how should be provide those, as a pull request?

<annette_g> 5.8 has been edited in the wiki since this was set up.

<annette_g> It should be accepting the pull request

Rob: the pull request hasn’t yet propagated despite it being about 10 hours ago

Dave: that feels like something’s gone wrong as it should be quicker than that

<alejandra> https://‌w3c.github.io/‌dxwg/‌ucr/

<alejandra> it should be shown there

<alejandra> with the latest changes

<annette_g> Maybe a different page got updated?

Rob: I will look into this with Dave, but if you clone the document you can view it locally.

<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to ask about duplicated links across UCs

Rob: if you have edits, please generate a pull request

<SimonCox> pull-request, assign to editors

Antoine: I’ve seen some duplicated links across UCs, 35, 36 …

alejandra: if we could have some label to know which requirements have been addressed that would make it easier to focus on those that are still to be clarified

<Zakim> riccardoAlbertoni, you wanted to say that there are similar issue on id23 id24

riccardoAlbertoni: there are similar issue on id23 id24

Rob: any help that you can provide on checking the use cases would be appreciated

Karen: we have an agenda item on how to move forward …

<alejandra> +1 to put the tags to the requirements

Rob: I am happy to provide tags for easier tracking

Karen: we haven’t yet made clear the responsibilities …

Rob: we ought to bring work together on the same page relating to profiles

Karen: the other group report we’re looking for is on the DCAT group work

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to setting up a doodle poll ;)

alejandra: we’re considering a doodle poll to find a timeslot for the discussions on that

<Makx> +1 doodle

The work is dependent on getting the requirements, so we can’t do a lot just yet

Action: alejandra to get the DCAT group to do an analysis of the current profile

<trackbot> Created ACTION-32 - Get the dcat group to do an analysis of the current profile [on Alejandra Gonzalez Beltran - due 2017-08-07].

Karen: the DCAT group hasn’t yet been formally defined, but we have some expressions of interest from a few people

<SimonCox> We did select editors at an earlier meeting

<Makx> EoI Makx for DCAT

<SimonCox> me!

<alejandra> editors selected before: Peter, Simon, Thomas and me

<alejandra> but yes, hopefully everyone will contribute

Simon has volunteered to be an editor

Phil created an empty template document for us to work with.

<alejandra> here the skeleton of the document: https://‌w3c.github.io/‌dxwg/‌dcat/

Antoine: I am reassured, it is looking good for me.

<Zakim> riccardoAlbertoni, you wanted to suggest adding the editors for each deliverable in the group wiki page

riccardoAlbertoni: we should add he editors for each deliverable in the group wiki page

<annette_g> At some point, there will be only editors

Open action items

Ruben: 27 was about links, I’ve put some text on the wiki, if you want a pull request let me know

<alejandra> so, do we stop using the wiki and we start using github for UCR work?

Ruben: 28 I’ve completely rewritten the use case following the suggestions from the F2F

Karen: we should put use case 28 back on our agenda for discussion (next week)

annette_g: I had an action for UC 8, and have done that on the wiki, but it isn’t on the github pages. I will make a pull request for it

Andrea: I can make a pull request from my cloned repo, do we want to follow that or to get everyone write access

Rob: if everyone has write permission it can make it hard to organise reviews

<alejandra> I think it is better to do Pull Requests and reviews

<alejandra> even if everyone has write access

Andrea: I can’t do anything to the repo as I don’t have write access - e.g., add labels to issues and PRs

Simon: this is controlled by the repo owner

Simon: in the spatial data WG everyone had write access, and we created branches and pushed these to the W3C main repo

Karen: could you please write up how that worked and email it to the public list and we can then see what others think

<kcoyle> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌wiki/‌Use_Case_Working_Space#ID37

Use case 37

Karen: this was previously unresolved.

Karen invites Antoine to summarise where we got to

Antoine: one question is whether UC37 needs to be split and clarified

Karen: any comments?

Antoine: would members of the group be happy if the use case didn’t specifically name …

Karen: would people prefer if the use case was generalised in terms of requirements?

Rob: the generalisation is well underway, I am not too worried about duplication, but am not quite sure what to do about the last one

Karen: do people feel comfortable enough to vote on UC 37?

Rob raises a question about APIs and whether this is in scope for what we’re talking about here?

Karen: you could put this into the requirements and we could then discuss them along with the others and decide which ones are going too far …

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to discussing when we discuss requirements how far we bring each requirements

antoine: I may have over generalized this one.

<kcoyle> PROPOSED: accept UC 37

<annette_g> +1

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1

<antoine> +1

<alejandra> +1

+1

<Makx> +11

<AndreaPerego> +1

Karen: we can refine the requirements when we discuss them

<Makx> +1

Resolved: accept UC 37

antoine: one last point - we’re ready to discuss the requirements when you are, if anyone has doubts, pleaae let us know

<Makx> i clicked on the link on the meeting page, no password asked

Karen: we will meet again next Monday, please look at your actions and we will look forward to discussing how we want to use github

<annette_g> Bye!

<Caroline> thank you! Bye

<AndreaPerego> Thanks, and bye!

<Makx> bye

<riccardoAlbertoni> Bye

Karen: end of meeting …

meeting; Data Exchange WG teleconference

Summary of Action Items

  1. alejandra to get the DCAT group to do an analysis of the current profile

Summary of Resolutions

  1. we accept the minutes for 24 July 2017 teleconference.
  2. accept UC 37
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