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Rick_Johnson: update on WG charter
... lots of activity in the last week, and the last hours
ivan: yesterday evening, I thought we had no
open issues on the charter
... I'd closed all the open issues
... this morning I woke up to four new issues
... the issues came from the Chrome team
... none of them were awkward
... I took care of them, commenting on all of them
... at this moment we are down to one open issue
... and I have a proposal for that
... Jeffery, the guy from Chrome, has been helpful but there's a large
time difference
garth: Will this affect w3m review?
ivan: this is the Chrome review; I know that
George has reached out to Apple
... the only thing I saw from that is that they're looking at if they
can get resources for the WG
... so they may have no comments
... Mike Baker has forwarded charter to MS/Edge people
... as far as the process goes
... I have submitted the request to approve charter to W3M
... I told them this morning there were some new issues; they'll decide
how to react
... I suggested they accept the charter conditionally
... I hope by Wednesday, when W3M meets, there will be no open issues
BillMcCoy: You'll be on that call?
... W3M asked some members for a pre-review of the charter which came
back positive
ivan: Ralph and Wendy did raise issues, which are now closed
BillMcCoy: I'm hopeful that w3m will approve
tomorrow
... you may know more about timeline
ivan: if we get green light on Wednesday,
then it's up to me and Coralie
... the only problem is Good Friday is vacation day in France, as is
Monday
... so it may be next week, but that's still in time for AC meeting
Rick_Johnson: good news
ivan: we will open a bottle of champagne
after the vote :)
... all people who are w3c members, TPI or not, you should get your vote
in. That's important.
... we need a certain number of votes to approve the charter... 20 or so
... but having votes from all publishing-related members is important
George: when we cast vote for charter, we also state we are committing human resources to the project
Bill_Kasdorf: I have a quick question
... does committing resources include me (as a representative of BISG)?
... is it sufficient
ivan: it's the AC rep of BISG that makes the
commitment
... it just means this org will send a rep to the WG
BillMcCoy: the statement in the vote is that the organization "anticipates" sending resources; it's not a hard commitment
ivan: that's right
BillMcCoy: it's not a sign on the dotted line thing
Rick_Johnson: OK
... the rest of the agenda is action items or open items from our last
meeting I want to run through
garth: what about other reviews?
Rick_Johnson: Mike Baker sent something to Microsoft
garth: We (Google) did raise some issues;
but he's not our AC rep
... I have been in contact with Chris Wilson
... I don't have the official statement from Google that we're good, but
I'm working on it
George: what Ivan said is correct; we heard from them and they're looking at what resources they may have
Rick_Johnson: agenda 2: update on elections
and Hachette
... the group asked the Steering Committee about elections
... the recommendation was that we start the process at the F2F in
November
... details to be worked out there
... because of Pierre's illness, there was talk of backfilling his seat
George: I forwarded the recommendation that
Luc fill that seat temporarily
... so we could invite Luc to the meetings
Rick_Johnson: the wording from Hachette was
that Luc would stand in until Pierre could come back, or the election
... Ivan and BillMcCoy, anything we need to do officially?
ivan: the steering committee is not a w3c structure, so if the BG is OK with this, it's fine
BillMcCoy: The charter of the BG discusses
the Steering Committee, etc
... it does not discuss stand-in procedures, so the SC can sort it out
... but it seems reasonable to me
... we just need to record what happens
Rick_Johnson: in the spirit of agenda item
#4, we'll consider this a decision using the process
... Agenda item #3 and #4
Rick_Johnson: open issue on creating a github repo, and also identifying the decision process language
ivan: the repo is finished; I announced that
... I put Bill Kasdorf's document there
Rick_Johnson: Can you put that in IRC?
<ivan> BG's github repository: https://github.com/w3c/pub-bg
ivan: I will do so
... the other thing, I thought I did that
... at the London F2F, I Put on IRC the reference to the charter
<ivan> Decision procedure in the
charter: https://w3c.github.io/dpubwg-charter/#decisions
Rick_Johnson: the action item I had was for the chair to send that out
Rick_Johnson: Agenda #5, identification of
transitional items from DPUB and where they should land
... anything you want to update us on?
garth: we did have a discussion a few
meetings ago
... things like CSS liason, a11y
... we have resolved those process-wise
... or have put them in the charter
... we didn't come up with any we forgot
... I think the charter covers all this now
ivan: right
garth: I don't think there are further
updates
... yesterday we talked about Latinreq
... which is why we didn't let Dave scribe :)
... having real pagination support, etc--that's an activity that will go
forward in the WG
... Dave does need additional resources, of course
Rick_Johnson: you also have item #6, on the June F2F
garth: it's looking likely that the first
F2F for the PWG on June 22-23, hosted by Adobe in New York
... we would need the charter voted on 8 weeks ahead
... looks like we'll be OK on that
... the 2nd F2F would be at TPAC, Nov 6-10 in Burlingame, CA
... Rick, you were copied on that... there will be lots of publishing
activity
... PWG meets MT, there's the BG meeting, there's the 2-day conference
... and the EPUB CG may meet for a couple of hours
... so we need to think about scheduling for all of this
Rick_Johnson: details on the June F2F are TK
garth: Leonard is out this week, but it's on my to-do list
Rick_Johnson: where is adobe?
garth: I don't remember :)
George: regarding booking travel
... I know that BISG has been thinking about an a11y summit
... on June 15, I was suggesting doing it on the 21st
... I don't know when I should book travel
... based on the 8-week rule
<graham> Adobe 1540 Broadway (thats near Times Square I think)
garth: my line to the IG/WG is that it's "pretty darn likely"
ivan: it's bad for our finances, but it's
wise to wait until we see how the official charter vote goes
... there's a non-zero possibility that we get a formal objection
... there is a risk
... I haven't made a reservation yet
... we should at least wait until the charter vote has gone out to the
AC
Rick_Johnson: the next two dominos are W3M meeting tomorrow, and confirmation from Leonard
ivan: it's all our individual risk then
Rick_Johnson: we will move on to item #7, epubtest.org
Bill_Kasdorf: my assignment was to ping Brian
<garth> Yep — if that’s the correct Adobe building, it’s between 6th & 7th Aves and 45th & 46th st — Bertelsmann Building. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bertelsmann+Building,+149+W+45th+St,+New+York,+NY+10036/@40.7577806,-73.9867327,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c25855a02e56e3:0x6f4dd08961d9718b!8m2!3d40.757744!4d-73.9845181
Bill_Kasdorf: I haven't heard back from him
yet
... I will continue to ping him
... I'm very interested in input from Dave and the CG before planning
that
... as they have a big stake in that
Rick_Johnson: agreed. Thanks for owning that
... next item is mine, on EDUPUB
... I'm in both IMS/W3C and IDPF
... I've made a proposal to the steering committee and to IMS board
... how do we integrate with 3.1, what to we have the CG do, etc.
... I hope to share that after the Steering Committee meeting
... any questions?
... seeing no one in the queue, and having no items to discuss, we're
done! See you in two weeks!
(beep beep beep beep beep)
<garth> LOL
<Rick_Johnson> thank you @dauwhe