<scribe> scribe: AnnAbbott

AA: completed review of all assigned to me

<jamesn> - Is a note discouraging use of role button in favor of html buttons warranted?

<jamesn> - If yes, wording? See mcking65 comment on Dec 11 that includes language he remove.

<jamesn> - Example page: http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/examples/button/button.html

<jamesn> - Issue: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/189

Issue 189: Updates needed for button example page

Matt: ; browser supplies default kbd actions on native button

JN: requires extra work to style link as button

MK: extra work is already in button design pattern
... wants to document decision

<jamesn> +1 to leave as it is

MK: will add decision to issue after call

Issue 264: Review long description disclosure example

MK: two related questions

<mck> http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/examples/disclosure/disclosure-img-long-description.html

<jamesn> - Issue: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/264

MK: concern is how screen readers announce
... Caption is same as label for image announces twice as screen readers

JN: example has bug - image has label of longdesc

MK: caption should not be duplicate of image label

<jamesn> Figurative Map of the successive losses in men of the French Army in the Russian campaign 1812-1813.

<jamesn> Drawn by Mr. Minard, Inspector General of Bridges and Roads in retirement. Paris, 20 November 1869.

<jamesn> The numbers of men present are represented by the widths of the colored zones in a rate of one millimeter for ten thousand men; these are also written beside the zones. Red designates men moving into Russia, black those on retreat. — The informations used for drawing the map were taken from the works of Messrs. Thiers, de Ségur, de Fezensac, de Chambray and the unpublished diary of Jacob, pharmacist of the Army since 28 October.

<jamesn> In order to facilitate the judgement of the eye regarding the diminution of the army, I supposed that the troops under Prince Jèrôme and under Marshal Davoust, who were sent to Minsk and Mobilow and who rejoined near Orscha and Witebsk, had always marched with the army.

MK: will prepare an alt for the image that is not a repeat of caption.

JN: text translated from French = caption. current caption text = alt text

Issue 279: Review updates to Example Page for Tabs With Manual Activation

- Example: http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/examples/tabs/tabs-2/tabs.html

- Issue: ht

tps: //github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/279

<mck> http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/examples/tabs/tabs-2/tabs.html

<sirib> Tab: When focus moves into the tab list, places focus on the active tab element . When the tab list contains the focus, moves focus to the next element in the page tab sequence outside the tablist, which is typically either the first focusable element inside the tab panel or the tab panel itself.

<jemma> http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#tabpanel

MK: should have example that demonstrates need for tabpanel to receive focus.
... add to Accessibility Features section

JN: suggest this goes to next publish round

MK: will add issue after call

CSS Changes for Tables in Example documents

<jamesn> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria-practices/greenbar-nolines/examples/treeview/treeview-1/treeview-1a.html

<jamesn> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria-practices/greenbar-solidline/examples/treeview/treeview-1/treeview-1a.html

<jamesn> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria-practices/tablestyle-1linelight/examples/treeview/treeview-1/treeview-1a.html

<jamesn> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria-practices/tablestyle-fulllineslight/examples/treeview/treeview-1/treeview-1a.html

JN" four quick mockups on states/properties

JN: no comment till you've looked at all 4 :)
... removed vertical bar and added green background
... in first
... 2nd retains vertical bar with green

3rd has thinner vertical bar

<jemma> I voted for the last one

4th has all grid lines surrounding cells

<sirib> I like last one too

Group agrees on https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria-practices/tablestyle-fulllineslight/examples/treeview/treeview-1/treeview-1a.html

Current milestone review

<jemma> thanks for all the mockups, Jamesn

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