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<shwetank> Hi ... i'm a bit new here ... do you happen to know the password for the call?
<shwetank> I would like to attend but don't know the password for the call, im searching for past mails but I don't seem to see it mentioned anywhere
<scribe> scribe: Janina
jgw: Added to the wiki, as
recently as Tuesday
... Added references and assigning
... Also read on the topic itself
... Accessibility and security of audio captcha is one topic of
interest in the literature
... People are concerned about use of speech recognition to
circumvent it
... Also, humans don't really do that well with audio
captcha
... Success rate is modest, the best they got was somewhere
around 68% with screen reader
... They used chars like space, slash to rewind slightly to
replay
... Another approach is recognizing everyday sounds in the
environment, rather than digits
... This approach is both visual and audible
... Appears to be in some patent state
<Zakim> janina, you wanted to ask what the general success rate is
sh: Looking through several papers
js: Suggesting we should explain the difference between visual and audible, -- audio is temporal, but the graphic sits there for continuing examination
sh: Suggests audible also confuses people, is it 7 or s e v e n ??
jgw: Answering Janina, success rates are fairly moderate across all, blind or not, in the Washington study
ds: Understanding mobile paper is
also very interesting, still working through the findings
... There's quite a lot about security, interesting
perspectives
... Noticed references also that we don't yet have, will
add
sh: I've been asked whether there might be a year-long student project from the work we're doing. So, just suggesting a possibility
ds: Silver has been considering such
jb: This has been done by other
WAI groups, issue is how to shape the project
... You need to divise a project that is achievable in the
available time, and that itself can take a bit of time
... Another concern is that doing original research work would
limit how much we can cover in overall areas
<shadi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_of_Things
jgw: Shadi has provided a wiki
ds: Several
captcha/authentication papers reference mobile devices as
controllers, home, or out and about
... Even atms
... May be a relationship to note
sa: Open for added references at
end of the wiki
... Suggest adding under "Publications" or create a new
heading
... Also cross links are possible
sh: Offering to focus on WoT, if that's an rqtf topic?
sa: Currently looking for use
cases mostly
... Also categorization discussion
js: Suggest rqtf is a good place
for WoT A11y discussion just now--most likely to succeed at
this time
... Suggests we might explore what's possible with spoken
interfacing, like Amazon Echo
... And what WoT device apis provide
sa: Agree, wanting not to worry
whehter it's web, or some other category later, focus on user
for now
... Think WoT WG may have requirements on data specs, and we'd
need to be ready to help those be a11y
... At least with metadata, but that means use cases first
jgw: Seems there may be more
personalization in general in near future, with mobile and
spoken interface devices
... That suggests importance of interoperability
... The multiplication of how web content is accessed, not just
the desktop browser anymore
... Suggest to continue reading, and keep with a Captcha focus
first for next week
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