W3C

Web Payments Working Group

12 Jan 2017

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Ian, Mathieu, Frank, Pascal, Andre, Adam, Molly, AdrianHB, Matt, Alan, Rouslan, adrianba_remotely, mathp, Roy, Olivier, dezell, Max
Regrets
Nick Telford-Reed, zkoch
Chair
Adrian
Scribe
Ian

Contents


<scribe> Scribe: Ian

Introductions

[Molly from Microsoft]

Molly: I will work with AdrianB during the next few months

[Mathieu from Google]

Mathieu: Implementing the spec

Payment Method Identifier

AdrianHB: I have not finished my action item; will aim to do that by next call

(Nick's action re: short strings not done)

Basic Card

<AdrianHB> ian: short agenda so if AOB please let us know

Issue 20: https://github.com/w3c/webpayments-methods-card/issues/20

Rouslan: there was a question about who should do validation; the answer we came up with was "payment app", and in another process
... so we closed the issue with the conclusion that payment apps should validate data

<adamR> +1 to the conclusion

<AdrianHB> +1 to conclusion

<adrianba> +1

(IJ reminder - I have an action to create a file of network short strings...and the emvco topic is about trademark questions)

IJ: Is there anything else in basic card that needs to happen?

<Zakim> rouslan, you wanted to talk about basic-card status in CHrome

rouslan: I don't think more needs to happen. Since Chrome 57 we have full implementation of basic card spec (with "basic-card" and filters in payment method specific data)

IJ: What should the data about network names look like in an external file? E.g., one string per line?

Rouslan: Seems reasonable

<Zakim> AdrianHB, you wanted to ask status of W3C hosting registry

Other Payment Method Specifications

Tokenized Payments => https://w3c.github.io/webpayments/proposals/tokenized_cards.html

IJ: Near end of month we'll have a revised spec
... editors meet next on 24 Jan

Credit Transfer

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2017Jan/0007.html

http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-methods-credit-transfer-direct-debit/

<AdrianHB> ian: I announced a recent update. We have another significant edit planned

<AdrianHB> ... started as a SEPA oriented spec

<AdrianHB> ... has simplified to generic credit transfer per matts suggestion

<AdrianHB> ... vkuntz is evaluating against SWIFT CGI for common field names etc

<AdrianHB> ... working rev and then will bring back to WG

<AdrianHB> ... need input from implementors on demand for these specs

<AdrianHB> ... filter plus datastructure approach for specs seems to be working well

<AdrianHB> ... expectation for basic card is that it will be a WG note (not a spec)

<AdrianHB> ... there may be friction if we want to change that

<AdrianHB> ... one observation from credit transfer spec is that we thought we'd have a network list but evolved to be a country list for filtering

<AdrianHB> ... comments welcome on spec repo

Payment method good practice => https://w3c.github.io/webpayments/proposals/method-practice/

Payment Method Best practice

<AdrianHB> ian: i've been trying to track best practice

<AdrianHB> ... started with max but not sure yet how useful it is until more people look at it

<AdrianHB> ... includes topics like versioning, UI etc. Informal now but may be more visible as NOTE in future

Facebook deployment

Roy: We are experimenting with the payment app spec and payment request API (as a mediator) in a mobile browser experience.

=> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2016Dec/0054.html

Roy: This is all experimentation at this point; we will bring feedback back to the group (e.g., via the repo)

AdrianHB: How would the FB mediator differ from the browser experience?

Roy: Stay tuned for more detail.

rouslan: Thanks for this news, Roy. Are you implementing through Webview? Opera (I believe) is interested in that was well.

Roy: Thanks for letting me know

AdrianHB: It would be good to get feedback into the payment apps task force

Payment Apps

<AdrianHB> ian: Tf has been meeting weekly

<AdrianHB> ... making good progress on the spec

https://w3c.github.io/webpayments-payment-apps-api/

<AdrianHB> ... expectation is to deal with 3-4 topics (clean up and resolve some q's)

<AdrianHB> ... then bring to group for further review

<AdrianHB> ... then CfC to publish FPWD

<AdrianHB> ... will be brining to Wg around end of January

<AdrianHB> ... worst case we'd deal with blockers at FTF and publish

adamR: We are probably also going to propose how to specify syntactically "recommended apps"

<AdrianHB> ian: the spec is uniquely mature for a pre-FPWD

<AdrianHB> ... which is not to say it good but it has a lot of detail

<AdrianHB> ... even more reason to get more review

<AdrianHB> ... we already have some implementors which is great and indicates we're heading in a good direction

<AdrianHB> ... main reason to move to FPWD is the Wg felt we need to be further along with this to be sure Payment Req won't change after CR

<AdrianHB> ... good F2F discussion

AdamR: We should also get this spec out to web developer audience sooner rather than later
... I'd be happier going to FPWD before march

<AdrianHB> +1

AdamR: that way we can have larger conversations more easily

adrianhb: +1 to FPWD sooner

<AdrianHB> ian: discussion has dealt with lots of balancing of merchant and user reqs

<AdrianHB> ... hence taking some time

<AdrianHB> ... comments welcome

Meetings

next teleconference: 19 January

FTF meeting

https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/83744/wpwg-201703/

<AdrianHB> ian: registration is open

<AdrianHB> ... 14 so far

<AdrianHB> ... date is 23-24 March in Chicago

<AdrianHB> ... IG may meet on 22 March

"1871"

<AdrianHB> ... visited space and looks like it will be great

<AdrianHB> ... trying to organize a dinner at a local restaurant

<AdrianHB> ... q1: food in the room or outside?

<AdrianHB> Outside please :)

They would like "Participant name/affiliation/title"

<adamR> For the record, I’m agnostic on the food question. :)

<oyiptong> outside++

https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/FTF-March2017

<AdrianHB> ... IETF meets the following week, and have a hotel list: https://www.ietf.org/meeting/98/hotel.html

<AdrianHB> ... feel free to edit agenda

Recent edits to PR API?

IJ: Anything to note in particular?

Roy: Editors met yesterday. I don't think anything substantial to signal
... alignment of specs with implementations

Merchant adoption meeting

20 January at noon ET

https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Adoption2017

IJ: Please bring to the call your experiences in merchant outreach and what would make it easier

App developer call upcoming

AdrianHB: Goal there is for payment app devs to sync up

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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