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<richardschwerdtfeger> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Dec/0011.html
<richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: mck
<MichaelC> ARIA APG
MC: That's link to latest editor's draft
rs: what's new about this version?
mk: This draft is shorter with signifcantly rewrites and new examples
rs: when will you be done?
mk: we will publish a version at the same time that aria 1.1 is PR
RESOLUTION: Publish workinheart beat draft of authoring practices during week of dec 12
mk: can we have a standing resoltuion to publish authroing practices until aria 1.1 goes to pr
rs: no issue with that
RESOLUTION: Authroing Practices TF has group consensus to publish heart beat drafts of authoring practices until aria 1.1 is PR
js: a lot of info from microsoft
rs: mapping for many roles
js: waiting on apple and axapi mappings for the same things
rs: no update on webkit so far
js: James Craig has added links to webkit bugs in some issues
rs: hoping by Jan we see some
axapi updats
... dpub aam, have been waiting on ms
Have some updates on that from ms too.
May be ready to do CR for DPUB, Core, and AccName in Jan
js: about 20 actions open.
rs: Are they all Mac?
js: No
<clown> action-1723
<trackbot> action-1723 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Editorial - create sections listing the roles that provide (1) nameFrom:author and (2) nameFrom:contents -- due 2016-08-17 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1723
<clown> action-1732
<trackbot> action-1732 -- Michael Cooper to Work on conformance section for mappings (note there is a section, but change id=conformance so respec picks up) -- due 2015-10-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1732
jg: Mostly working on APG this week ad didn't have a a test call
Still need test adapters for MSAA
Joanie: ATK/AT-SPI2 adapter is mostly done; still have some polish to do
rs: working with Freedom
Scientific. They have many features iin Firefox mapping except
shortcut keys
... Google has work in progress; Firefox is mostly done with
mappings.
... Working with Freedom Scientific and NVDA to get interlocked
wtih our group
/me thanks Joanie
jg: Next week will be working on msaa/ia2 adapter
rs: Jon, I gave you feedback on your review
jg: one question is about address element, which they want to map to contentinfo
js: think they recently changed the definition of address
it used to apply to the entire page and be about credential or something like that
contentinfo doesn't sound wrong for the old definition.
jg: ARIA talks about having only one contentinfo for the page.
this could generate contentinfo all over the place and create landmark polution.
mk: address should not map to a landmark role
<clown> old definition of <address>: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/address
<jongund> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_in_HTML_Comments
rs: color, clandar ... browsers have different rendering per browser; it is not necessarily text field
jg: color, date, time do nto default to textboxes?
rs: right. color, could be a picker,
jg: no corresponding role is fine?
rs: yes
jn: it is not defined in the spec what the implementers need to do for those html elements
jg: maybe we should have somethig that allows the browser to do something that corresponds to their specific implementation.
something different from no corresponding role for the mapping.
rs: Michael, can we merge this our comments with the APA grou comments?
mc: it is possible
Janina: except we have an APA requirement to run a CFC for all our comments on spec
jg: for canvas, no corresponding role is OK?
rs: should be img
You cna always override them. At one point we tried region for canvas, but default is still img.
jg: so canvas should be tied
mapped to img
... svg element says no corresponding role for mapping
mc: ARIA in HTML has not been updated to recognize the ARIA grhics module
<richardschwerdtfeger> Default Platform WAI-ARIA Role Mappings graphics-document
<richardschwerdtfeger> graphics-document
rs: the graphics module is not yet to CR
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
Just leave the mapping of no corresponding role for now
mc: Perhps this issue should be filed as an ARIA comment not an APa comment.
jg: dt and dd can be part of a definition list. In another part of the document, it does not say that posinset and setsize can be used with dt and dd
rs: rs: in ARIA, term does not support setsize and posinset\
mk: shoudl we have an aria 1.2 issue for adding posinset and setsize tfor definition and term roles?
rs: yes
<clown> https://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/aria.html#term
mc: creating issue
<clown> https://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/aria.html#definition
assigning to rich
<MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 497 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/497
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-abbr-element
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://w3c.github.io/html-aam/#el-abbr
rs: on Mac, abbr maps as
group
... we need a new role for this
mk: agree we need a role different from group
js: dfn is also role group in mac
<MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 498 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/498
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