Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

21 Nov 2016

See also: IRC log


Lisa_Seeman, JohnRochford
Kurt_Mattes, Janina_Sajka
Jim_S, jan


<Lisa_Seeman> trackbot, start meeting

<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this agenda+ review SC, and timelines review sc wording to get to pending agenda+ Tables https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html agenda+ What have we missed for issues page agenda+ be done

<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this

<Lisa_Seeman> will log on soon

review SC, and timelines review sc wording to get to pending

<JohnRochford> Lisa: I can't hear all of a sudden. Working on it...

<Lisa_Seeman> ok

<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Jim_S

<Thaddeus> + Thaddeus

<Thaddeus> Thaddeus present

<Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DHoA9fQRsNtfrhxpf-HGVzbNpe6KUxv-cgxY6NM4mGI/edit#

<kirkwood> +kirkwood

Lisa_Seeman: Jan will be able to copy edit this week, starting from the bottom of the document. Mary Jo's comments have editing comments. Jan will indicate copy editing done in the notes.

John Rochford has copy edited the first 10 documents. Jan to start at 30 and work up the document.

Mike Pluke pointed out Mary Jo's comments on Chunks had not been addressed. Lisa to expand on the explanation.

MIke Pluke expressed concerns around the grammatical ability of testers

<Jan> +1 to pointing out that it relates to automatic translations

Lias has comments for SC 1-30.

Jan to do 30, 29, 28...

John to do 21, 22, 23.... and meet Jan

<JohnRochford> Actually, I will start at 11 and work up ... 12, 13, etc.

<Jan> +1 for submitting 1st 10 to WCAG

No objections to Lisa submitting SC 1-10 to WCAG

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/visual-presentation.html

<Thaddeus> Jus­ti­fied text is spaced so the left and right sides of the text block both have a straight edge. The usual al­ter­na­tive to jus­ti­fied text is left-aligned text, which has a straight left edge and an un­even right edge. Com­pared to left-aligned text, jus­ti­fi­ca­tion gives text a cleaner, more for­mal look.

<Thaddeus> http://practicaltypography.com/justified-text.html

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html

<Lisa_Seeman> Table 2, 2nd line under authoring techniques:

<Lisa_Seeman> When restoring context we need to be able to re-orientate (even if it is in a new window or tab) and return to the point where we left from. For example, in iOS if you navigate away from a message in WhatsApp using a link, it is possible to return to the point where you left WhatsApp with a single click on an obvious link on the destination page. This is true for all apps in iOS and...

<Lisa_Seeman> ...something similar should be available in all environments. This should not just apply to multimedia elements either.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/clear-purpose.html

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/feedback.html

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/clear-purpose.html

<Lisa_Seeman> Table 3 3rd line “I need enough time, and not lose my work”:We need to expand on mechanisms on how to create a persistent setting to allow more time and encourage a standardised way of requesting more time to complete an action.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/timed-events.html

<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: jan

<Lisa_Seeman> add to timed events

<Lisa_Seeman> user agreed: the time out period is longer then a period that the use has agreed to

<Lisa_Seeman> user agreed: the time out period is longer then a period that the user has agreed to

<Lisa_Seeman> user agreed: The time out period is not less than a mimum time out period to which the user has agreed at the user has agreed to

<Lisa_Seeman> user agreed: The time out period is not less than a mimum time out period to which the user has agreed.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/timed-events.html

<Lisa_Seeman> conses to the change?

For now, we will leave the requirement in that user data not be lost on time out, even if user agreed

<Jim_S> +1

<kirkwood> +1

+1 to change

<Mike_Pluke> +1

<Thaddeus> +1

Suggestions for changes to operating systems should go in the far right column of the user needs tables

JimS: One question is whether or not there is something analgous to CTRL-+ zoom in a browser that could be used to increase white space

JohnK: There is some difficulty in that because of standard reflow issues and how images are handled, etc.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/visual-presentation.html

Look at EA's proposal for how text and objects can be adjusted, but we have to give an example of how this can be done.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/clear-purpose.html

Bye everyone!

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/undo.html

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/undo.html

<Lisa_Seeman> thank you jan!

<Lisa_Seeman> present John K

<Lisa_Seeman> present John r

<Lisa_Seeman> Present Thad

<Lisa_Seeman> Tresent Mike

<Lisa_Seeman> present Mike

<Lisa_Seeman> present Jim

<Lisa_Seeman> Present Jan

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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