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15:54:00 <trackbot> Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:54:00 <trackbot> Date: 21 November 2016
15:54:00 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
15:57:16 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this   agenda+  review SC, and timelines  review sc wording to get to pending agenda+  Tables https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html  agenda+ What have we missed for issues page  agenda+ be done
15:57:44 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
15:57:46 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  review SC, and timelines  review sc wording to get to pending
15:57:47 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  Tables https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
15:57:49 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ What have we missed for issues page
15:57:50 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ be done
15:58:47 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ undo: is justification correct?
16:08:14 <Lisa_Seeman> will log on soon
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16:46:23 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:46:23 <Zakim> agendum 1. "review SC, and timelines  review sc wording to get to pending" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:46:51 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: Kurt Mattes ,Janina Sajka
16:46:56 <Lisa_Seeman> present +
16:55:39 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I can't hear all of a sudden. Working on it...
16:56:13 <Lisa_Seeman> ok
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17:02:36 <JohnRochford> present+
17:02:40 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Jim_S
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17:03:00 <Thaddeus> Thaddeus present
17:03:03 <Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DHoA9fQRsNtfrhxpf-HGVzbNpe6KUxv-cgxY6NM4mGI/edit#
17:04:09 <JohnRochford> q+
17:04:22 <kirkwood> +kirkwood
17:04:30 <Jim_S> Lisa_Seeman: Jan will be able to copy edit this week, starting from the bottom of the document. Mary Jo's comments have editing comments. Jan will indicate copy editing done in the notes.
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17:06:12 <Jim_S> John Rochford has copy edited the first 10 documents. Jan to start at 30 and work up the document.
17:08:44 <Jim_S> Mike Pluke pointed out Mary Jo's comments on Chunks had not been addressed. Lisa to expand on the explanation.
17:09:35 <Jim_S> MIke Pluke expressed concerns around the grammatical ability of testers
17:10:06 <JohnRochford> q+
17:10:40 <Jan> +1 to pointing out that it relates to automatic translations
17:16:00 <Jim_S> Lias has comments for SC 1-30.
17:17:04 <Jim_S> Jan to do 30, 29, 28...
17:17:31 <Jim_S> John to do 21, 22, 23.... and meet Jan
17:18:10 <JohnRochford> Actually, I will start at 11 and work up ... 12, 13, etc.
17:18:38 <Jan> +1 for submitting 1st 10 to WCAG
17:18:50 <Jim_S> No objections to Lisa submitting SC 1-10 to WCAG
17:19:27 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:19:40 <Lisa_Seeman> ack j
17:20:13 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/visual-presentation.html
17:21:52 <Thaddeus> Jus­ti­fied text is spaced so the left and right sides of the text block both have a straight edge. The usual al­ter­na­tive to jus­ti­fied text is left-aligned text, which has a straight left edge and an un­even right edge. Com­pared to left-aligned text, jus­ti­fi­ca­tion gives text a cleaner, more for­mal look.
17:22:06 <Thaddeus> http://practicaltypography.com/justified-text.html
17:26:42 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:28:01 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:30:39 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
17:31:11 <Lisa_Seeman> Table 2, 2nd line under authoring techniques:
17:31:13 <Lisa_Seeman> When restoring context we need to be able to re-orientate (even if it is in a new window or tab) and return to the point where we left from. For example, in iOS if you navigate away from a message in WhatsApp using a link, it is possible to return to the point where you left WhatsApp with a single click on an obvious link on the destination page. This is true for all apps in iOS and...
17:31:14 <Lisa_Seeman> ...something similar should be available in all environments. This should not just apply to multimedia elements either.
17:33:20 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/clear-purpose.html
17:35:26 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/feedback.html
17:36:35 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/clear-purpose.html
17:41:25 <Lisa_Seeman> Table 3 3rd line “I need enough time, and not lose my work”:We need to expand on mechanisms on how to create a persistent setting to allow more time and encourage a standardised way of requesting more time to complete an action.
17:41:43 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/timed-events.html
17:45:07 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: jan
17:45:19 <Lisa_Seeman> add to timed events
17:47:02 <Lisa_Seeman> user agreed: the time out period is longer then a period that the use  has agreed to
17:47:19 <Lisa_Seeman> user agreed: the time out period is longer then a period that the user  has agreed to
17:48:54 <Lisa_Seeman> user agreed:  The time out period is not less than a mimum time out period to which the user has agreed at the user  has agreed to
17:49:13 <Lisa_Seeman> user agreed:  The time out period is not less than a mimum time out period to which the user has agreed.
17:51:47 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/timed-events.html
17:54:20 <Lisa_Seeman> conses to the change?
17:54:22 <Jan> For now, we will leave the requirement in that user data not be lost on time out, even if user agreed
17:54:25 <Jim_S> +1
17:54:27 <kirkwood> +1
17:54:28 <Jan> +1 to change
17:54:37 <Mike_Pluke> +1
17:54:45 <Thaddeus> +1
17:55:41 <Jan> Suggestions for changes to operating systems should go in the far right column of the user needs tables
17:56:59 <Jan> JimS: One question is whether or not there is something analgous to CTRL-+ zoom in a browser that could be used to increase white space
17:57:31 <Jan> JohnK: There is some difficulty in that because of standard reflow issues and how images are handled, etc.
17:58:13 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/visual-presentation.html
17:59:14 <Jan> Look at EA's proposal for how text and objects can be adjusted, but we have to give an example of how this can be done.
18:02:54 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/clear-purpose.html
18:03:55 <Jan> Bye everyone!
18:04:28 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/undo.html
18:05:27 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/undo.html
18:05:52 <Lisa_Seeman> thank you jan!
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