W3C

Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

10 Nov 2016

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
scribe, Joanmarie_Diggs, Janina, JemmaJaeunKu, Stefan, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Tzviya, Jason, Bryan, Bryan_Garaventa
Regrets
Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Jon_Gunderson, Matt_King
Chair
MichaelC
Scribe
MichaelC

Contents


DPub Roles update

need CfC from ARIA and DPub IG

now targeting 29 Nov for CR

of DPub Roles

(DPub AAM for Jan, along with the other AAMs)

SVG2 update

no updates

ARIA 1.1 testing update

jd: Joanie´s ATTA working

not yet merged

need to address a11y events

back-and-forth with Shane

Rich has held off on testable statements, probably will return to that after his

Jon working on IA2

JD still needs to work on AXAPI ATTA

hope we can start doing meaningful testing in Dec

still need to get it all merged and put into WPT

<jemma> aria testing meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2016/11/09-aria-test-minutes.html

can still do manual testing

mc: but that might impact timeline :(

Continue ARIA 1.2 triage of HTML 5 features

-> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/ HTML 5.1

input element

maxlength / minlength

-> https://w3c.github.io/html-aam/ HTML-AAM editors draft

jn: does it truncate?

mc: yes, possibly

do we need this for equivalent user experience?

jn, jd: no

js: in HTML-AAM, is not mapped

@size

no need for ARIA

@readonly, @required covered

@mulitple

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-multiple-attribute

<jamesn> i could see it being useful for something like this http://www.oracle.com/webfolder/technetwork/jet/jetCookbook.html?component=select&demo=multi

may need this

issue 470 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/470

@pattern

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-pattern-attribute

no need

@min and @max

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-min-and-max-attributes

correspond to @aria-valuemin and @aria-valuemax

jd: HTML AAM needs to address these

@step

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-step-attribute

<clown> issue-539

<trackbot> issue-539 -- aria-valuestep -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/539

GH-ISSUE 471 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/471

@list

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-list-attribute

jd: could map to combobox but might be bad

or could map to autocomplete

maybe it´s like aria-haspopup

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/html-aam/master/#att-list

GH-ISSUE 472 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/472

@placeholder

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-placeholder-attribute

covered

<button>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-button-element

covered

<select>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-select-element

covered

<datalist>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-datalist-element

jd: popup list

deal with on @list action

note added to GH-ISSUE 472

<optgroup>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-optgroup-element

js: using group role for now

GH-ISSUE 473 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/473

<option>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-option-element

covered

<textarea>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-textarea-element

covered (text aria-multiline)

<keygen>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-keygen-element

being removed, so don´t bother

<output>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-output-element

js: mapping to a live region

no need to map

probably - unless something comes our way during HTML-AAM work

<progress>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-progress-element

covered

<meter>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-meter-element

we have GH-ISSUE 451 already https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/451

<fieldset>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-fieldset-element

covered by group or radiogroup

<legend>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/sec-forms.html#the-legend-element

covered

== moving on to grouping elements ==

<p>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-p-element

GH-ISSUE 474 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/474

<hr>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-hr-element

covered

<pre>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-pre-element

GH-ISSUE 475 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/475

<blockquote>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-blockquote-element

GH-ISSUE 476 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/476

<ol>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-ol-element

<ul>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-ul-element

jd: we have list, but do we need to distinguish the types?

jn: not sure we need

the bullet / number gets exposed to AT

jd: have seen lists with no indicators

had to use heuristics

mc: can´t count on indicator in ARIA

jn: in which case also sighted users don´t have

jd: there are layout lists and list lists

let´s not tackle this problem for now

<li>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-li-element

covered

<dl>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-dl-element

<dt>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-dt-element

<dd>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-dd-element

<clown> https://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/aria.html#term

<clown> https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#term

<joanie> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#definition

<clown> https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#definition

<figure>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-figure-element

<figcaption>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-figcaption-element

both covered

<main>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-main-element

covered

<div>

https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/grouping-content.html#the-div-element

GH-ISSUE 478 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/478

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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