W3C

Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

08 Nov 2016

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Joseph_Scheuhammer, Joanmarie_Diggs, Bryan_Garaventa
Regrets
Rich_Schwerdtfeger
Chair
Joseph_Scheuhammer
Scribe
joanie

Contents


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ISSUE-676/ACTION-2126: (Joseph) Adding MSAA+IA2 action, interface, and relations to role mappings.

<clown> action-2126

<trackbot> action-2126 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Add actions, interfaces, and relations to the msaa+ia2 mappings. -- due 2016-11-01 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2126

JS: This is mostly my action-2126 where I was supposed to add actions, interfaces, and relations to the msaa+ia2 mappings.

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/ACTION-2126/core-aam/core-aam.html

JS: I am mostly done. I have done it in a branch (see above)
... I removed the redundant items, as per Alex's request.
... There were a lot of them.

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/ACTION-2126/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-img

JS: Also, I put in the image interface.
... See above URL for example.
... There was one last thing, looking for a selection interface in IA2 for things like listbox, menu, menubar, and others.
... I asked Alex about it.

<clown> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Nov/0021.html

JS: And he said (reads from above URL)

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd318466(v=vs.85)

JD: The URL in the email, the link is missing the closing parenthesis. The above link works.

JS: Alex mentioned get_accSelection and accSelect methods in the email
... I was about to put that in there.
... For grid, for example, but then I realized that everything implements IAccessible.

JD: Looking at his email, it's just the two methods related to selection that I think he's suggesting.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd318474(v=vs.85)

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd318486(v=vs.85).aspx

JS: Ok, I think I have enough.
... I will try to get this finished and merged by next week.

ACTION-2121: (Joseph/Joanie) Correct the ATK/AT-SPI text for single and multiple selection removal.

JS: We discussed this last week.

<clown> action-2121?

<trackbot> action-2121 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Correct the atk/at-spi entries in seciton 5.8.3 for single selection and multiple selection when the selection is removed. -- due 2016-10-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2121

JS: Joanie found a few little things, like underscore versus dash in method names.
... And removing the focus: event.

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/ACTION-2126/core-aam/core-aam.html#mapping_events_selection

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-feedmapping_events_selection

https://github.com/w3c/aria/commit/5471b02a955edcaf394735af2c99eca1afc75ba8#diff-44a18abe53562094e678b59690bd4757L2988

(Discussion about how the changes made are not quite right, and how to correct them)

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#focus_state_event_table

JS: I'll make the changes to selection.
... Final question, does this need a Changelog entry for the details?

JD: Probably not.

JS: I'll get this done by next week, too.

ISSUE-1038: (Bogdan) Mappings for feed, figure, term, and UIA in general.

<clown> ISSUE-1038?

<trackbot> ISSUE-1038 -- Need mappings for role="feed", "figure", "term" for all AAPIs -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1038

JS: A while ago, Cynthia left and Bogdan was asked to go over all the UIA entries in all the tables and adjust them.

<clown> action-2118

<trackbot> action-2118 -- Bogdan Brinza to Addresss UIA mappings for ARIA 1.1 -- due 2016-10-16 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2118

JS: He added a note to action-2118.
... He said there are no outstanding mappings other than what is in action-2013.

action-2013

<trackbot> action-2103 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to UIA mapping for role=navigation (GIthub issue #242) -- due 2016-02-12 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2013

<clown> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/469

action-2103

<trackbot> action-2103 -- Bogdan Brinza to Provide uia mappings for roles feed, figure, and term; and aria-colcount, aria-colspan, aria-colindex, aria-rowcount, aria-rowindex, aria-rowspan, and aria-details. -- due 2016-08-09 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2103

JS: Bogdan added a pull request to the comment.
... I've not looked further at it.

(JS reads Bogdan's comment)

(JS reads Rich's response)

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/469

JD: The above URL is where the comments are

JS: To summarize, he is saying that he's added the outstanding roles and properties. The mapping is really clean and straightforward with the exception of aria-details.
... aria-details is mapped using describedby
... Rich said that was fine, but they cannot stringify it.
... This patch has no conflicts and can be merged.
... I will try to look at it for next week.
... He also added a range value pattern for scrollbar.
... And also for slider and spinner.
... Sounds reasonable to me.
... He's made some other editorial changes.
... I just wanted to let you know this is going on with UIA.

https://rawgit.com/boggydigital/aria/ACTION-2103/core-aam/core-aam.html

<clown> https://rawgit.com/boggydigital/aria/ACTION-2103/core-aam/core-aam.html#ariaDetails

https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#aria-details

<clown> "In some user agents, multiple reference relationships for descriptive information are not supported by the accessibility API. In such cases, if both aria-describedby and aria-details are provided on an element, aria-details takes precedence."

(Group discusses whether or not there might be a problem mapping aria-details to UIA's describedby property. Conclusion: Ask if there's any issue.)

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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