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SVG Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
01 Nov 2016

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Attendees

Present
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Chair
Rich
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Rich

Contents


I am on webex

but apparently, the last meeting used Doug’s webex

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2016Nov/att-0001/00-part

<shepazu> Rich, ok, I'll join the other one

<AmeliaBR> https://mit.webex.com/mit/e.php?MTID=mfbccb8d6db27f5aa089c12da792afa6d

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1008738814311&set=a.1008738534304.2002162.1100161646&type=3&theater

http://www.wesharebonaire.com/2015/02/14/i-shall-return/

<scribe> meeting: SVG A11y Task Force

co-chairs

Rich: looking for a co-chair for the task force due to move to retirement

Doug: If my situation changes I would be willing to co-chair

Amelia: I have a similar situation. At this time I will continue to participate

Vacation Schedule

Rich: On vacation November 5-20. Also, the last 2 weeks of the year I will be out like most
... Fred will try to chair next week. If not, Doug will chair

Doug: Limit discussions to testing while Rich is on vacation November 5-20

RESOLUTION: Last meeting this year is December 13, Resuming January 3, 2017\

SVG2 Status

Rich: Last I heard the SVG working group was going to take some features out of SVG2

Amelia: we met about a month ago with most implementers. Many of the implementers were not interested in doing the advanced graphical features at this time. To move ahead with a spec. some of those features would be moved to separate modules.
... We asked people to get back to us with features they felt were priorities and not priorities. No feedback has been feed at this time
... At the meeting it was agreed that A11y was a priority
... we have agreed but we need to say that some things like Z index was important for a11y. Also, the multi-lingual title is important as an a11y enhancement

Doug: One slight update: I sent an email to the implementers to provide an easier way for them to provide feedback in hopes of greater responsiveness.

<AmeliaBR> Feedback & implementation status summary document: https://nikosandronikos.github.io/svg2-info/svg2-feature-support/

Doug: It is pretty clear what features they will support - the enhancements but not completely new features
... We have a working extension for the working group that will last until the end of January and they will push forward on the rechartering.
... It really depends on our getting people to help with testing resources.
... Adobe, who has not been engaged with SVG did show up at the meeting and they stated that Adobe was was interested in a11y

Rich: they were also interested in the advanced features

Doug: If we can get 2 authoring tools that should suffice.

Amelia: to get interoperable mesh gradients across graphics editing tools

Doug: There has been a lot of litigation lately and increased focus on accessibility
... The companies that make ZoomText and Window-Eyes have merged with the company that makes JAWS. VFO.
... these are now all under one roof.

Status of our Documents

Amelia: The SVG accessibility mappings updates were not integrated yet.
... update the working draft to match the editors draft

<scribe> ACTION: Doug Update the draft. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2031 - Update the draft. [on Doug Schepers - due 2016-11-08].

Amelia: More broadly we have a number of issues in that document. As we build a test suite and get more implementers we will be able to narrow down the issues. …. View elements and couple of the other areas where SVG is unique
... I have sort of suggested a way of handling things.
... hopefully the test suite will be a way to get greater implementer involvement

Testing ToDs

https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Testing/Test_Assertions_with_Tables_for_ATTA

Rich: Why can’t we just point canvas and iframe to HTML

Amelia: Copy the HTML a11y tests for these

<scribe> ACTION: Doug: Reach out to Steve Faulkner to get test cases copied over to the SVG a11y test harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2032 - Reach out to steve faulkner to get test cases copied over to the svg a11y test harness [on Doug Schepers - due 2016-11-08].

Rich: Thes aare for canvas and iframe

Amelia: The view element is new in that the view is activated by a target fragment. Where the target fragment is the id of the view element.
... We need a test harness that that will accommodate this
... Contact Shane McCharron (ARIA a11y test harness) shane@spec-ops.io and Mike Smith (smith@w3.org)

Rich: track, audio, video come from HTML tests as well

Filter Parts: We need to make sure they are not exposed in the a11y

<scribe> ACTION: Fred Write test harness mappings to make sure the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Error finding 'Fred'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<scribe> ACTION: fesch Write test harness mappings to make sure the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Error finding 'fesch'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users>.

Amelia: set should not be exposed. We need to check that it did not hide other elements. … these are part of the svg aam

trackbot, make minutes

<trackbot> Sorry, Rich, I don't understand 'trackbot, make minutes'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Doug Update the draft. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Doug: Reach out to Steve Faulkner to get test cases copied over to the SVG a11y test harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: fesch Write test harness mappings to make sure the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Fred Write test harness mappings to make sure the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03]
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Last meeting this year is December 13, Resuming January 3, 2017\
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