See also: IRC log
I am on webex
but apparently, the last meeting used Doug’s webex
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2016Nov/att-0001/00-part
<shepazu> Rich, ok, I'll join the other one
<AmeliaBR> https://mit.webex.com/mit/e.php?MTID=mfbccb8d6db27f5aa089c12da792afa6d
http://www.wesharebonaire.com/2015/02/14/i-shall-return/
<scribe> meeting: SVG A11y Task Force
Rich: looking for a co-chair for the task force due to move to retirement
Doug: If my situation changes I would be willing to co-chair
Amelia: I have a similar situation. At this time I will continue to participate
Rich: On vacation November 5-20.
Also, the last 2 weeks of the year I will be out like
most
... Fred will try to chair next week. If not, Doug will
chair
Doug: Limit discussions to testing while Rich is on vacation November 5-20
RESOLUTION: Last meeting this year is December 13, Resuming January 3, 2017\
Rich: Last I heard the SVG working group was going to take some features out of SVG2
Amelia: we met about a month ago
with most implementers. Many of the implementers were not
interested in doing the advanced graphical features at this
time. To move ahead with a spec. some of those features would
be moved to separate modules.
... We asked people to get back to us with features they felt
were priorities and not priorities. No feedback has been feed
at this time
... At the meeting it was agreed that A11y was a priority
... we have agreed but we need to say that some things like Z
index was important for a11y. Also, the multi-lingual title is
important as an a11y enhancement
Doug: One slight update: I sent an email to the implementers to provide an easier way for them to provide feedback in hopes of greater responsiveness.
<AmeliaBR> Feedback & implementation status summary document: https://nikosandronikos.github.io/svg2-info/svg2-feature-support/
Doug: It is pretty clear what
features they will support - the enhancements but not
completely new features
... We have a working extension for the working group that will
last until the end of January and they will push forward on the
rechartering.
... It really depends on our getting people to help with
testing resources.
... Adobe, who has not been engaged with SVG did show up at the
meeting and they stated that Adobe was was interested in
a11y
Rich: they were also interested in the advanced features
Doug: If we can get 2 authoring tools that should suffice.
Amelia: to get interoperable mesh gradients across graphics editing tools
Doug: There has been a lot of
litigation lately and increased focus on accessibility
... The companies that make ZoomText and Window-Eyes have
merged with the company that makes JAWS. VFO.
... these are now all under one roof.
Amelia: The SVG accessibility
mappings updates were not integrated yet.
... update the working draft to match the editors
draft
<scribe> ACTION: Doug Update the draft. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2031 - Update the draft. [on Doug Schepers - due 2016-11-08].
Amelia: More broadly we have a
number of issues in that document. As we build a test suite and
get more implementers we will be able to narrow down the
issues. …. View elements and couple of the other areas where
SVG is unique
... I have sort of suggested a way of handling things.
... hopefully the test suite will be a way to get greater
implementer involvement
https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Testing/Test_Assertions_with_Tables_for_ATTA
Rich: Why can’t we just point canvas and iframe to HTML
Amelia: Copy the HTML a11y tests for these
<scribe> ACTION: Doug: Reach out to Steve Faulkner to get test cases copied over to the SVG a11y test harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2032 - Reach out to steve faulkner to get test cases copied over to the svg a11y test harness [on Doug Schepers - due 2016-11-08].
Rich: Thes aare for canvas and iframe
Amelia: The view element is new
in that the view is activated by a target fragment. Where the
target fragment is the id of the view element.
... We need a test harness that that will accommodate
this
... Contact Shane McCharron (ARIA a11y test harness)
shane@spec-ops.io and Mike Smith (smith@w3.org)
Rich: track, audio, video come from HTML tests as well
Filter Parts: We need to make sure they are not exposed in the a11y
<scribe> ACTION: Fred Write test harness mappings to make sure the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Error finding 'Fred'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<scribe> ACTION: fesch Write test harness mappings to make sure the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Error finding 'fesch'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users>.
Amelia: set should not be exposed. We need to check that it did not hide other elements. … these are part of the svg aam
trackbot, make minutes
<trackbot> Sorry, Rich, I don't understand 'trackbot, make minutes'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
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