Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

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Microsoft

RS: Cynthia is not coming back to the group.
... I was told by Microsoft to send work that needs to be done to Bogdan.
... The last branch I was working on, if you could pull that in, I want to go through the whole UIA area and find out what's missing and ask Bogdan to fill it in.
... Bogdan said he would do it.

JS: Is he familiar with the style?

RS: Bogdan can give it to you (Joseph) or me, and we can do the actual editing.

JS: I'm fine with your branch that we discussed yesterday.
... Let's see what others think.
... But then I can pull it in tomorrow.

RS: There's a 2102a.
... Then I had to make some changes for James Teh.
... So those are in.

JS: 2102 was pulled in.

RS: I'm talking about 2102a.
... If you can, pull in branch 2102a.
... And 1047 (missed what was said)
... I think I have enough to go to James Craig and Bogdan.
... I'm also working to get James Teh as an invited expert.

JS: Will Bogdan be joining us on the calls?

RS: I don't believe so.

ACTION-2102/ISSUE-1026: (Rich, All) Create mappings based on features in html 5.1 spec.

<clown> action-2102

<trackbot> action-2102 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Create mappings based on features in html 5.1 spec. -- due 2016-08-04 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2102

JS: This is the 2102a then.
... To remind people, Rich was going to add mappings for (lists a bunch of roles and properties)

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2102a/core-aam/core-aam.html

JS: I pulled it. But I gather there is a 2102a.

RS: In 2102a, I put in the reverse relationships and final mappings for details and errormessage for IA2 and ATK.

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2102/core-aam/core-aam.html#ariaDetails

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2102a/core-aam/core-aam.html#ariaDetails

JS: (Reading from branch spec text)
... I see details-for.

RS: There's an error-for.

JS: Ok. Looks good to me.
... I turn it over to the rest of the group for their input.

JD: I believe I've already looked at this and that I told Rich it was fine.

RS: You did.

(Group discusses if this is ChangeLog-entry worthy. Consensus: Yes.)

JS: I heard today that details and summary were implemented in Firefox, but not released yet; in the nightly build.

<clown> https://twitter.com/stevefaulkner/status/783336943388127232

RS: Related aside, we finished all the DPub mappings with the exception of UIA, which I sent to Bogdan.

ISSUE-1047: (Rich/Joseph) Handle special cases for aria-roledescription

<clown> issue-1047

<trackbot> issue-1047 -- Mappings for empty aria-roledescription and when the element has no implicit nor explicit ARIA role -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1047

JS: Special mappings for aria-roledescription when it's empty or has nothing but whitespace in it.

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/issue1047/core-aam/core-aam.html#ariaRoleDescriptionEmptyWhiteSpaceString

JS: Also when it has no explicit ARIA role.
... Rich and I have worked on this. See above link.
... (Reads/explains mapping proposed)

JD: What exactly does not mapped mean for my platform?

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/issue1047/core-aam/core-aam.html#document-handling_author-errors

JS: It means it's not in ther at all.

<clown> User Agents MUST NOT expose https://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/aria.html#aria-roledescription when:

<clown> • The element it is applied to has an invalid WAI-ARIA role, or

<clown> • The element does not have an implicit WAI-ARIA role

JS: The above link is for the error handling section.
... I've also pasted the content above.

<clown> <img aria-roledescripton="love" src="heart.png" alt="heart">

<clown> { ROLE: graphic, ROLE_DESCRIPTION: "love", NAME: "heart"

JS: Should I merge these changes in?

Group: Yes.

Github issue-428 (Cynthia/Joseph): clean up UIA mapping of aria-haspopup

JS: I'm not sure what to do about this.
... Cynthia wanted the UIA mapping for aria-haspopup cleaned up.
... I asked her what she meant by that, but she has not answered.
... Maybe it's a Bogdan issue now.

RS: I noticed some other issues, so I'm going to ask Bogdan to review everything.

<clown> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/428

JS: The URL above is for her issue.
... (Reads from issue)
... My problem was that aria-haspopup has multiple values now.

RS: What I remember is that they could not implement all the tokens at this time.
... So she just wanted to go with expanded/collapsed, or whatever it is they are using.

JS: Well, there is a mapping for each one.
... (Reads from spec)

RS: It doesn't make sense for an expanded collapsed on a popup.

<clown> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/428

<clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#ariaHaspopupTrue

JD: Well, expanded and collapsed does make sense on things which have popups.
... But expanded/collapsed is not how you map the value of aria-haspopup.
... If you cannot map the different tokens, I think it needs to be a boolean.
... What was done before aria-haspopup got all the different token types?

JS: Looking at the REC, it seems they mapped it to an MSAA property.

RS: Let's asked Bogdan.

Group: Agreed.

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