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<tzviya> Rich: We have not moved over to Github for issue tracking
<tzviya> ...Worked with James Teh to resolve issues
<tzviya> Tzviya: Rich and James T made changes reflecting IA2
<scribe> scribe: Rich
<tzviya> scribenick: Rich
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/issue444/dpub-aam/dpub-aam.html
26-Sep-2016: For MacOSX modify doc-abstract, doc-acknowledgments, doc-afterword, doc-appendix, doc-bibliography, doc-chapter, doc-conclusion, doc-credits, doc-endnotes, doc-epilogue, doc-errata, doc-foreward, doc-glossary, doc-index, doc-introduction, doc-pagelist, doc-part, doc-pagebreak, doc-prologue, and doc-toc to be landmark regions.
28-Sep-2016: doc-abstract, doc-colophon, doc-credit, doc-dedication, doc-epigraph, doc-example and doc-qna are all to IA2_ROLE_SECTION; doc-notice, doc-tip mapped to IA2_ROLE_NOTE; convert a number of MSAA and IA2 roles to have <code> styling
<tzviya> Rich's changes reflect James Craig's updates to landmark and navigation mappings
<tzviya> James C's comments in https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/435
<tzviya> scribe: Tzviya
Rich: James Teh's changes also
affect ARIA role "feed"
... The thing that was a big issue is doc-pagebreak only having
namefromcontent
<Rich> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpub-aria/2016Sep/
Tzviya: comment from Matt "Yes, the page break number is not normally in the text content of the document. Using aria-label or title is the recommended practice in epub."
Rich: should this be namefromcontent of namefromauthor?
consensus: namefromauthor
Rich will make the change
<Rich> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html
Tzviya: matt noticed an error in
http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html#doc-index
... the super-classes for doc-index are incorrect
... the correct superclass should be navigation
... This affects API mappings as well, but nothing subclasses
index
... <li role="doc-learningObjective>
li retains its native semantics
rich: We need to adjust the AAM to indicate that roles without mappings maintain semantics
tzviya: we also need to ensure
that the html validates
... question for ARIA WG - would you require that a prefixed
vocab be written with the ARIA WG?
MichaelC: Procedure we agreed
that groups would write on their own and submit to ARIA for
review. We'll review with WG. I think that as long as we
approve the work, we can stay out.
... It does have to published through the ARIA WG.
<janina> Just saw the agenda for today. Anyone still on a call?
Rich: One thing to consider going forward is that synonyms might exist in Core. For example chapter might exist in core while doc-chapter is in dpub-aria
rich: we could test everything
with one file
... put all the roles on a bunch of divs with an id
... We would have an expected output on an API
... The automated test tool will check that the browser
platform support the tool
ivan: You are describing testing
the mapping
... i think we also need to define exit criteria for the
roles
... we need to demonstrate that the roles are used by EPUB
authors, for example
Tzviya: Shane may have some
suggestions
... I can demonstrate that the roles are used by some
publishers
<ShaneM> do you want me to call in?
Ivan: This should be similar to
defining exit criteria for a vocab
... We should talk to Ralph
Tzviya: We can use the ARIA test
harness for DPUB-AAM
... We need to define exit criteria for DPUB-ARIA
Shane: The testing sits below the
Accessibility Tree layer
... and interrogates the implementation of the roles in 2
APIs
Ivan: this doesn't apply to vocab testing though
Shane: If the problem we are
trying to solve is that the terms flow through to the DOM, then
it does
... If we are trying to prove that the terms are used in the
wild, then it doesn't
ivan: i will have a call with Ralph soon and will discuss
tzviya: for the purpose of this
vocab, it's good to see use in the world
... and great to see manifested in the dom
... when we get to roles with no API mappings, we don't expect
to see much in the DOM
Ivan: For this vocab, we can say
that the original version of these terms have been used for
yeard
... We need to be careful about creating precedent
Tzviya: Let's leave this as a discussion point for Ivan and Ralph
Rich: I would like to get
mappings from MS on UIAutomation
... I'll be in touch with Bogdon
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