stacy: introduces himself as genivi security team lead
... how much codesign work done with w3C?

rudi: websocket work is done on w3C side

paul: W3C works on the web layer and Genivi works on the lower layer

stacy: the W3C security group involved?
... (explains the security work on the GENIVI side)

paul: Junichi Hashimoto from KDDI is leading the discussion on the W3C Automotive side
... and will attend the GENIVI meeting in October
... many people would like to join the security discussion

stacy: can send invitation to people if needed
... and a writeup on our work

philippe: W3C security team is asia-based?
... 4pm CET might be not really good for them then

paul: right
... we've been holding 2 slots: us friendly one and europe/japan friendly one

stacy: we have offices in Asia as well

paul: will let you know the mailinglist
... if you can send messages to the list, the participants would be interested

stacy: can send some slide decks
... they can go to our wiki and get more information

paul: what is your thought about the participation in the AMM schedule?

phlippe: W3C is a W3C Member
... so you can have 4 people to attend this meeting
... basically no issue

paul: some of the W3C participants are GENIVI Members themselves as well

philippe: if people are interested, we should be able to find a way

stacy: W3C meeting as well during the October AMM?

paul: yes, the WG/BG will hold a f2f meeting

stacy: same location in SFO?

paul: yes

stacy: do you want me to attend some of the sessions?

paul: yes

rudi: +1

-> https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Main_Page#Oct_19_-_21_.2C_2016_.2CGenivi_AMM.2C_Burlingame W3C meeting schedule

paul: Oct. 20-21 for the W3C meeting. Karin is helping us for logistics.

philippe: good
... we have a separate call for security
... let's use this monthly call for synchronization

stacy: can start to join the W3C security call too

philippe: we have this call on 4th Tuesday for the synchronization
... we have also the W3C/Auto BG call on the 2nd Tuesday as another coordination event
... we need to wait for Philippe Colliot for LBS
... Rudi, do you have update on VSS?

rudi: demo during AMM
... last week there was W3C TPAC meeting in Lisbon
... discussed current draft
... first draft spec of vss was presented and well received
... 2 people from JLR UK
... plan to finish the spec by Q2 next year

philippe: good

-> https://www.w3.org/2016/09/19-auto-minutes.html day 1 minutes from the W3C Automotive meeting

-> https://www.w3.org/2016/09/20-auto-minutes.html day 2 minutes from the W3C Automotive meeting

paul: might be good to have discussion with the W3C security team about how the proxy would work, etc.
... browsers running on the system for system functions
... like head unit

stacy: browser based attack
... when the details are on discussion, would be interesting

rudi: very valuable

stacy: there are a few attacks went through the vehicle systems

(short discussion on tesla hacking and uconnect (Jeep) hacking)

paul: would be good to have an overview of typical hacks during the W3C F2F at the AMM

... we'd have a summary of our work

stacy: will look at my calendar

philippe: quick update on the tuner work?

paul: Ryan Davis from iHeartMedia is working on that

(Philippe Colliot joins)

pc: migration of all the API from Genivi design to Franca
... recently achieved
... the goal is publishing the Genivi API using Franca
... and generate navigation Web API based on Franca
... would like to take part of the API design
... identify the difference between Franca version and WebIDL version
... I'm not a specialist of WebIDL, so taking longer than expected
... really appreciate if anybody could help
... Qing An had sent out some examples
... would like to discuss it during AMM
... but really need somebody who has expertise on WebIDL and JavaScript
... that is the situation

paul: we should have a session on that
... Qing An?

qa: yes

paul: inline with the meeting

rudi: good to have that

paul: Philippe, please let me know about your availability
... Thursday/Friday

pc: ok
... Qing An also suggested I should attend the Vehicle Interface part
... would like to understand it
... still need to understand how it would be implemented

paul: a lot of functionalities on the service layer
... if GENIVI Members are interested, please join

philippe: any other business?

(none)

philippe: would you have a call on the 2nd Tuesday in Oct?

paul: would be good to have a quick call on Oct 11th

(that is one week before the GENIVI AMM)

philippe: ok
... the official synchronization meeting will be held during the AMM
... but welcome to have another call for security, etc.

[ adjourned ]