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17 Aug 2016

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Attendees

Present
Tzviya, fesch, allanj, George_Kerscher, MichaelC, Kathy, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Kim, Judy, Jim, Jinina, Janina, Brent, Joshue108
Regrets
Chair
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Scribe
janina

Contents


<scribe> scribe: janina

jb: Any agenda additions?
... Noting several folks unavailable for meeting today

W3C functional re-org and accessibility; questions, comments

jb: Introducing discussion of W3C reorganization aimed at being more responsive to web development today
... Now to be organized by function
... e.g. project management for spec development
... architecture for how the pieces fit together
... strategy for where we need to go
... This takes away the old familiar domain structure
... Notes that WAI was an Initiative before it was a Domain
... The hope is to get even better a11y integration
... However, details are still evolving

<Judy> https://www.w3.org/2016/08/2016-reorg.html

jb: Expected effective date is late September -- post TPAC
... Available to discuss with anyone concerned about these changes

<Judy> [jb: there was an omission, that will be addressed]

jb: Notes also an omission in the announcement doc, which will be corrected

<Judy> here is the missing bit that will be added to the reorg doc:

<Judy> The Web Accessibility Initiative is a long-time publicly visible brand of W3C, and will be kept as a brand and as an Initiative. However, whereas in the past the work was mostly managed by a single Domain, accessibility work is now distributed across the new functions (primarily Strategy, Project and Architecture & Technology) supported by the WAI specialists and Principal Investigators on external funding.

jb: Notes the above doc is public
... Yes, message went to AC + Chairs, but the doc itself is public and can be shared
... Any questions?

kathy: How does this affect existing work efforts?

jb: Work will continue as is. Some background shifting, i.e. moved under different management
... Management will be mostly focused on testing, publications, meeting milestones, etc.
... i.e. very production oriented
... Michael would still be the staff contact for his current groups.

<Zakim> Joshue, you wanted to ask if this management change will have any impact on charter creation processes

josh: Concerned about charter impact, esp the creation of new/updated charters

jb: Yes
... Noting there different types of charter provisions, adding/deleting deliverables, redefining scope, or new work, or simply extending an existing charter
... So above can cross production, strategy, as well as a11y
... Wants to reassure that I have been cross-checking this on existing charter work, even though I wasn't able to discuss this up front
... So, now I can report there are others in the loop, but I'm not out of the loop in any case
... Asking whether WCAG discussed in meeting?

josh: Yes, it will have some impact on charter development, and have some feedback

jb: Want to reassure that I'm still very involved, though my new title is not yet determined

josh: Might plh start to come on calls?

jb: Probably not, unless there's a specific reason. Will moe likely interface with Michael.
... Any other questions for now?
... Wants also to note this call continues, though changes are possible, e.g. frequency of calls

EOWG schedule at TPAC <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2016Aug/0004.html>

brent: EOG will not have official F2F at TPAC because only 4 of us will be there
... Rather, we want to focus on outreach and to meet with other WAI groups to better understand how we can help with their work
... We are trying to establish a schedule in advance for those discussions

jb: Are you getting responses?

brent: We've reached out to WCAG, and also with ARIA

josh: Looking forward to our joint conversation ...
... Hope that eog can help even with some of our doc creation

jb: Suggest it's best to be specific in cross meeting requests as many groups are tightly scheduled
... Suggest specific agenda and several suggested times

Additional TPAC events, and any pending logistics

jb: Notes that a11y testing now in WCAG ...
... Anyone have date on this?
... OK, will determine and forward to list
... OK, it's Thursday 22 September

ts: Same day as dpub mtg, but should be able to share a few folks for part of the day

jb: Important to communicate with Wilco so he doesn't drop the room thinking no one is coming

Upcoming publications, announcements, discussion threads to promote, including on WAI IG?

<Ryladog> Yes, it did

<Joshue108> JS: Discussion was started in WAI-IG.

<Joshue108> JS: There are threads in WAI-IG and APA.

<Ryladog> am recording the inpu tuse cases

<Joshue108> JS: Trying to capture that so you can see them on archive.

<Joshue108> JS: We took the MAUR and stripped them back.

<Joshue108> JS: We were reviewing APIs that came out of IG. We are figuring out what we want to say.

<Ryladog> There are some use cases in the Web Payments Use Cases document and modify for userswithdisabilities

<Joshue108> JS: We should like an a11y impact statement etc.

<Joshue108> JS: Suggestions around UI and API implementation etc.

<Joshue108> JS: Still details to be worked out.

<Ryladog> yes

<Ryladog> Also, There are some use cases in the Web Payments Use Cases document and modify for users with disabilities

jb: Is there seeding discussion in WAI IG?

janina: Yes, Katie lead it and it's been helpful

FYI on upcoming guidelines charter work

<Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2016/08/draft-wcag-charter

josh: Have had group feedback to be addressed
... We will need to take that up and make appropriate changes
... we want to make sure we do the background requirements work for any future WCAG spec
... This now includes UAAG and ATAG maintanance
... Also have input coming from COGA, Mobile, and Low-Vision work

jb: Encourage looking at this from the perspective of keeping people engaged
... e.g. want to make sure our ongoing Mobile work has sufficient visibility

ja: Wondering whether issues arising of folding in UAAG and ATAG needs to be specifically called out in the charter somehow

josh: Obviously this is important, but how to address is unclear now

jb: Believe the maintanance work needs to be clear
... But also the evolving scope

josh: We still don't know the mechanics of maintaining UAAG and ATAG

jb: Please call that out, it needs to be stated

<Ryladog> Just to say that we should be looking for the impacts of ATAG and UAAG for the IoT/WoT tools and content

djosh: Concerned of the mechanics of doing the work

jb: Expect there will be staff support, but this is the stage to name the work

josh: OK, but don't understand how to articulate it

jb: It's in scope because of future WCAG reqs

josh: Hope we can keep this preliminary for the current charter, i.e. reqs

jb: Are you concerned that there's a lot to do?

josh: Unsure

jb: No, not a point release of UAAG or ATAG, just errata level things

<Ryladog> What about? Just to say that we should be looking for the impacts of ATAG and UAAG for the IoT/WoT tools and content?

josh: That's helpful!

<Ryladog> I can hear

<Ryladog> ok

jb: Perhaps we do need to revisit this charter work ...
... It's important to get scope right, and to avoid surprises in charters

Update on accessibility conformance testing work

jb: WCAG reviewed and approved

jb; Hope this helps draw more workers in

Checking on Web payments accessibility

jb: Have heard there's some kind of problem?
... Raising it now to ask whether there are specific issues of concern?
... Is APA aware?

html a11y tf closed yet?

janina: Noting APA Payment sscheduled to meet Thursday morning, so will get clarifications there

<Judy> judy: Can APA just close it?

<Judy> janina: if there was a cfc on longdesc, apa should have been advised.

jb: Suggest we need to say more on closing HTML-A11y TF, noting it's not yet closed
... Perhaps some dependencies being missed, and we need to resolve gaps

Any other business?

Next meeting: rechecking future frequency; also next date, and requested topics

jb: Want to know which discussions are most useful? And, want to know about meeting fequency, optimizing that.

<Brent> +1 to as is. This is a learning experience for me.

janina: I find current level good

<Ryladog> +1 I am for keeping it

tzviya: Also me

<Judy> [JS: particularly b/c of pace of activity, to stay on top of this, avoid dropping things]

tzviya: Our model might be helpful for I18N and other horizaontol review groups

<Brent> I will not be available

<Ryladog> I will be

jb: Who is available for 31 August?

<Judy> Availability for August 31?

janina: Probably

<Brent> -1

janina +0.75

<tzviya> +1

<Ryladog> +1

<Kim> .75

<Judy> +.75

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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