<hadleybeeman> Hi antoine

<antoine> Hi Hadley!

<hadleybeeman> Hi all! I think Yaso is meant to chair today, but we can get started anyway

<hadleybeeman> We'll need to be on Skype again today. Phila isn't back from leave yet.

<BernadetteLoscio> Hi all!

<hadleybeeman> I'm trying to call the same list from last week — let me know if you're not getting an alert from me

<annette_g> could people mute?

<scribe> scribe: deirdrelee

topic il8n comments

hadleybeeman: where are we on this

BernadetteLoscio: we are still waiting on feedback
... i sent an email last week, but have not received an answer yet
... we had a discussion about the comment on locale parameters on email with annette_g etc
... all the other comments have been addressed

hadleybeeman: so we are waiting for mcomments from rob on bp30

BernadetteLoscio: this one i updated today. i think this one will be okay

there was a comment not addressed to the group, so it was lost, but then i found it and addressed it

hadleybeeman: if we are not getting a comment from an individual, we should send to the list

BernadetteLoscio: i did try and send it to the list, but i didn't have permission?

annette_g: shouldn't the mailing-list be public?

<hadleybeeman> https://www.w3.org/International/about#mail

hadleybeeman: they have a bunch of different lists, some are open, some aren't

<BernadetteLoscio> www-international@w3.org

BernadetteLoscio: i answered the message to everybody who was listed in the original message
... i think this is not public
... i can resend to the public list if they have it

hadleybeeman: alternative is to write to them again and give them a deadline. so to say, please let us know within a week, or we'll assume you are happy with our suggestion
... what is the story with cr call?

deirdrelee: we are waiting for philippe to suggest a new date, i will send a reminder today

hadleybeeman: ok to extend il8n issue by one week BernadetteLoscio?

BernadetteLoscio: yes that's fine

hadleybeeman: BernadetteLoscio, will you send a reminder to il8n group and give them a deadline for feedback?

BernadetteLoscio: which is the public list?

hadleybeeman: we need to be careful not to imply we're looking for feedback from new people

BernadetteLoscio: there is still an open topic about bp3
... we were trying to find a place to add locale parameters
... annette_g made a suggestion to add it to bp3
... i'm not sure, because to check the locale parameters you need to check the data, and bp3 is about checking the metadata
... so we think it would be better in data format bp

<hadleybeeman> qq?

hadleybeeman: now that we have received comments from group, we should define the proposal and send to il8n wg for comments

<antoine> me yes

BernadetteLoscio: i want to confirm annette_g is okay with putting it in data format bp

annette_g: yes, that's ok, but i just don't want it to be lost in running text of a bp where it doesn't fit, or in an introduction

<ericstephan> Sorry I am not able to join by phone, the webex number is not accepting my meeting number

BernadetteLoscio: one idea is to include this in the introduction paragraph of the data formats section, with links, etc. that emphasise its importance

<ericstephan> ericphb

<ericstephan> thank you!

annette_g: editorally that seems like a mistake, if we care about it, then it should be placed within the BP, or as a new BP. it will be missed
... what's point of review if we can't take into account?

hadleybeeman: this will set us back 3 months, because we will have to go back to working draft and get wide review

annette_g: ... ok, then i would prefer to put it in locale parameter BP

BernadetteLoscio: we have been asking for comments on this for ages, and the il8n group has only given us comment now
... it would be easier if they gave it before

<Zakim> Caroline, you wanted to ask if we need Web Accessibility group to review the BP document

hadleybeeman: good point, we need to compromise

Caroline: vagner is wondering if we need feedback from the web accessiblity team
... do we need it?

<hadleybeeman> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2016Jul/0018.html

hadleybeeman: yes we need it, we need to check to every wg
... phil sent an email to chairs@w3.org which is to chairs of every group
... so officially they have been informed

<Zakim> deirdrelee, you wanted to also ask w3 to reinstate webex

deirdrelee: should i ask philippe about reinstating webex for the group?

<ericstephan> thank you Caroline

hadleybeeman: phil should be able to sort this out and he is back on tuesday
... anything else holding us back on the bp document?

BernadetteLoscio: the only things are the feedback from the group, and the comment that is still open, and today i sent a comment about how to test two best practices
... today i have been trying to add implementations, but i think the tests for two bps are too long
... i asked if is possible to update the tests, not to change the meaning, but to make the tests more clear
... i think the tests for other bps are clearer

hadleybeeman: we need to define the CR exit criteria

BernadetteLoscio: BP20 and BP31

DQV

hadleybeeman: how are you doing, what is left in your way?

antoine: similar to last week, editorial actions and ~minor comments
... we are progressing and are improving the document editorially
... as stated last week, we will be ready to publish in line with the BP document
... as well as addressing the informal comments, we are also preparing the more substantial comments, to prepare for next steps that might be looked at by a next WG

hadleybeeman: sounds good! keep up the good work!

DUV

ericstephan: BernadetteLoscio and I met this morning, BernadetteLoscio had gone through the vocabulary very carefully, looking for typos, inconsistencies, etc.
... so we have a lot of minor changes to make to the document
... next week we should have a more tangible state of where we are
... right now i don't see any showstoppers. I think BernadetteLoscio and i have a clear idea of where we need to go with the document

hadleybeeman: do you need any input from the wg?

ericstephan: not now, once we have made all the editorial changes, we will come back to the group with the improved document

<BernadetteLoscio> thanks ;)

ericstephan: next week we should be ready to share with the group

next week

hadleybeeman: open question, do we need a meeting next week?

ericstephan: i mentioned that with the assumption we would have a meeting, we don't necessarily need a meeting

<Caroline> the BP document editors think it is a good idea to have a meeting next week :)

ericstephan: i think all our comments can be addressed via email.
... don't have a meeting just for DUV

hadleybeeman: Caroline thinks it would be a good idea from BP side
... how about DQV?

antoine: not necessary to have meeting next week, maybe the following week?

<ericstephan> sounds great

<Caroline> sounds great hadleybeeman

<annette_g> +1

hadleybeeman: let's have a meeting to check in about the BPs
... next week, and the vocabs after
... reminder that we should be collecting implementations
... anything else?

<ericstephan> thank you all! Have a great weekend.

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