W3C

Timed Text Working Group Teleconference

30 Jun 2016

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Attendees

Present
Glenn, Mike, Nigel, Pierre
Regrets
Frans, Thierry, Andreas
Chair
Nigel
Scribe
Nigel

Contents


<scribe> scribe: Nigel

This Meeting

nigel: Thanks to Glenn for stepping in and chairing last week - much appreciated.
... I think we have a bit to cover following on from last week, then we're into TTML issues and the Profiles registry
... AOB?

group: No AOB

nigel: I think staff are on geek week so they won't attend - I had regrets from Thierry.

TPAC 2016

nigel: This is a placeholder agenda item - anything to discuss?

glenn: TTML2 for the agenda.
... Did we finalise the days of the meeting?

nigel: I think we're still on Monday and Tuesday - I didn't any further action regarding
... the clash with the web and TV interest group.
... Although the clash is not ideal it's not a big enough problem for me to do anything about it - I can always make a request if it's needed.

TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc

nigel: Did you want to close some issues on tracker but were waiting for me?

glenn: Yes, we weren't sure why the issues on the agenda were open.

issue-224?

<trackbot> issue-224 -- Support text placement in 3D coordinate spaces (not zIndex compositing). -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/224

nigel: It looks as though the proposal in the issue-224 branch in Mercurial may not have made it to github?

glenn: It's been merged already.

https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#style-attribute-disparity

nigel: I've added a note onto the github issue https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/40
... and propose to close the tracker issue.

close issue-224

<trackbot> Closed issue-224.

issue-322?

<trackbot> issue-322 -- Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is incorrect. -- pending review

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/322

nigel: Is the errata text in the TTML1 errata now?

glenn: I don't see it in the current TTML1 errata.

nigel: I don't see it either.

glenn: It is in the github errata but not pushed out yet.

nigel: I've added it to the issue on github https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/191

http://w3c.github.io/ttml1/spec/ttml1-errata.html

nigel: So the final errata there isn't published at https://www.w3.org/2013/09/ttml1-errata.html
... Since we've already agreed on the errata I think we just need to catch up and publish it.

glenn: I also note that this errata has an update to the registration, and we have not yet
... updated this errata to match the recent discussion so we may need to review this and
... update based on what's agreed with IANA.

mike: I'm thinking we keep the note and not put anything in TTML2.

glenn: That would be my suggestion, to have TTML2 refer to the note.

mike: That's the cleaner way to do it so that TTML1 does not get orphaned.

nigel: I think we've already agreed to do that.
... I don't want the errata to stay out of date, now that we've realised we have
... unpublished errata, and then I guess we should update again when we get an
... update from IANA.

mike: It would be good to prompt plh to check if he has anything in his inbox from IANA.

<scribe> ACTION: tmichel Publish current github errata document for TTML1 to include dropNTSC time expression semantic [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/30-tt-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-474 - Publish current github errata document for ttml1 to include dropntsc time expression semantic [on Thierry Michel - due 2016-07-07].

Issue-322: Closing this as we are tracking it on github now

<trackbot> Notes added to Issue-322 Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is incorrect..

close issue-322

<trackbot> Closed issue-322.

nigel: On the Actions, I haven't done mine...

glenn: Nothing to report on my two.

Profiles registry

action-468?

<trackbot> action-468 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to Add link to the ttml profiles registry page from the ttwg home page -- due 2016-05-12 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/468

nigel: I think this is done.
... I see a link from https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/ to https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/
... which fulfils the action.

mike: That's perfect.

close action-468

<trackbot> Closed action-468.

nigel: Aside from waiting for the IANA response is there anything else we need to do?

mike: I don't think so. There were a number of edits proposed, and aside from the clipboard
... one they were reasonable and I just need to implement them.

nigel: There's an open pull request: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/3
... sorry I mean https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/20

mike: I'd prefer to process that and all the issues together when I get some time for that.

IMSC

pal: Nothing to discuss on this right now - I have a pull request to review.

Unicode Liaison

nigel: [checks the link] No update since Pierre updated the ticket 2 months ago.

WebVTT review feedback

nigel: I saw an action appear on this last week - not sure if there's something I should be doing?

glenn: We were discussing the state of WebVTT and agreed that it would be nice if the
... co-chairs got a plan together because nothing is happening.

nigel: I see that you mentioned that edits are being made.

glenn: Thierry noted that some reviewers have commented on the WD and in
... preparation for a CR those comments need to be disclosed properly.
... In other words how to get to CR.

nigel: Okay, I see the action is on Thierry, and he hasn't prompted me and David yet.
... Since I leave the WebVTT work to David I'm sure he'll deal with it when the prompt
... comes from Thierry, one way or another.
... Okay, we're out of agenda items so I'll close the meeting now and give you all back 15 minutes. [Adjourns meeting]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: tmichel Publish current github errata document for TTML1 to include dropNTSC time expression semantic [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/30-tt-minutes.html#action01]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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