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MK: Yingying, update on open day graphic
YY: local media will make graphic... and publish it.
W3C will review it internally
ask everyone to provide feedback. silence means OK
YY: Another thing is about
breakout session. Need to know estimated number.
... would like to confirm that we need only 1 additional
break-out room? Correct?
MK: Difficult to know right now. Depends on interest of people
YY: Big meeting room for 200 people can be seperated
SK: We have several topics to discuss w.r.t. thing description.. prefer not having (any/many) parallel sessions
many people are interested in many topics
JH: think we have rather 2 parallel sessions
<mkovatsc> +1
SK: agree
<kaz> +1
YY: One big room and one smaller room?
MK: Dividing big room in 2 parts is also fine?
YY: Okay
MK: Worst case three.. that's fine I guess
RESOLUTION: one big room which can be split into 2-3 parts for the f2f meeting
YY: About PlugFest Agenda. Tuesday is not updated yet.
<mkovatsc> On room topic: Big room can be divided into up to three rooms, which is fine
YY: first part is introduction: combined with CETC demo and W3C plugfest intro
second part is about implementer pitches (~ 1 slide)
afterwards we said parallel sessions..
however, CETC has just short demos..
we can first have CETC demo and than W3C PlugFest
OK everybody?
MK: Updated agenda to look at would be good... so far it sounds fine by me
YY: Ok, will update agenda
... Also, I would need presenters slides... within this week
would be good
same for PlugFest pitch. Please send it me. will add it to wiki
SK: checked Tuesday agenda. 1. implementers pitches, 2. demos..
YY: Agenda is out-dated
... implementers pitches will be before PlugFest
SK: I see
Kaz: link Wednesday.. should be Tueday
YY: Correct
MK: any quick update?
none heard
<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Roadmap
MK: Joerg showed roadmap last
week
... integrated some feedback fro Panasonic
green, past
pink, important milestones
aligned it with W3M meeting schedule
last week deadline for p2p feedback
after f2f in Bejing... integrate review
<Mathias walks over roadmap>
October 21st, approved by W3M
Dave: timeline is fine
however, not sure about how to push for active participiation
moreover, see extended interest e.g. Google... can we extend the charter space
JH: Comment about
Scott/Google
... at F2F we should look at charter and make sure that THIS is
the version we can give to externals
... make sure that we understand each other
... also capture feedback
... w.r.t. Scott: make sure to reduce complexity
Dave: I think he is looking for common profiles/models
commonality of models
and vendor extensions
also look at real products and check whether we can model that
JH: That is what event, property etc is about
Dave: anyhow, should be able to extend charter
MK: After Bejing charter should
be ready
... need further feedback from Google
Dave: think they promised further feedback.. just need to be patient
Kaz: Agree that timeline looks good
about outreach we should discuss about details separately... maybe outreach taskforce
everybody can join this taskforce.. reaching out to AC reps
MK: Should make sure that we integrate feedback correctly... talk to them to make sure
<dsr> European Broadcasting Union, Fraunhofer, Intel, INSIGHT, TNO, Sony, UK Government, Siemens and Mitsubishi
<kaz> IG Charter review results (Member-only)
MK: w.r.t. IG charter. got 10 AC reps OKAY
Dave: 70 groups in interest
group
... should reach out to others
... holiday season now.. might be a bit risky
could also extend response time
MK: Are we aware of companies not yet listed
Dave: Yes, ... but still
evaluating their strategy
... or startup need to figure out how (member fees)
... or also non-members
takes a while
MK: WG charter ready for P2P outreach since last week. Is there any feedback?
<dsr> acl mkovatsc
Kaz: 1. Have we closed roadmap topic?
MK: Still about roadmap
Kaz: 2. we should clarify purpose/target of outreach task
Dave: believe we should discuss this now
Kaz: means we should separate
topic. W3C members and non-members
... also, we are still generating target list, correct?
MK: would say reaching out to members should be done by members. Non-menbers done by W3C..
Dave: depends on the contacts...
if you have good contacts please do that
... W3C will try to help
MK: Was more talking about responsibility
Kaz: outreach relates to Communication taskforce
MK: agree
Dave: All have responsibility to make others aware of our work
JH: Should more look at it from the point of view of caretakers
Dave: Share it members list?
<mkovatsc> +1
JH: Sounds good
MK: Masato prepared chart for roadmap, do you agree with wiki version
Masato: Yes, wiki version is good as is
MK: bit behind schedule
Daniel integrated security details from Nice
<Sebastian> http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html#repository
SK: w.r.t. discovery I gave short description about TD repository
<Sebastian> http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html#participation-howto
also, updates in PlugFest section 3.5.1
How to use repository
not clear yet if we use local or external repository
depends on network setup (and issues we encounter)
DP: Yingying checked and I hope everything will be just fine
Dave: Static address for local repository you can share?
SK: can/should use static addresses anyway, right Yingying?
MK: First we should try repository online... than fallback, right?
Dave: Depends on code..
MK: Will prepare address for
local raspberry
... W.r.t. implementations. Did you find any bugs while
testing?
Kaz: We are generating diagram about network in Hotel... think could be useful
MK: Yes, heard about some "strange" setup.. separated networks for wifi and wired
YY: Checked whether we can have dedicated connection.. should resolve issues mentioned before
asked operator to install another connection
MK: Is budget okay?
YY: yes, reasonable price
<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_July_2016,_China,_Beijing#Requirements
MK: Requirements table lacks information
can we update wiki and what has been checked
for example skype is working et cetera
YY: Will update table
DP: tool does not test httpS and coapS ..
YY: will also contact Panasonic
<kaz> fyi, initial network configuration diagram: https://www.w3.org/2016/07/wot-f2f/network/beijing-network.png (Member-only)
MK: When will we get details about network setup?
YY: I think tomorrow the network
should be installed. Testing on Friday..
... Need to know subnet ranges et cetera?
MK: Yes.. subnet, DHCP, manual addresses and such details
<Sebastian> +1
MK: 30 minutes left, no topic left on agenda
any more issues to discuss?
lets close early..