W3C

Genivi / W3C coordination call

12 Apr 2016

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Paul_Boyes, Philippe_Robin, Ted_Guild, Arthur_Taylor(AdvancedTelematics), Phillippe_Colliot
Regrets
Chair
Philippe Robin
Scribe
Ted

Contents


Arthur: we are working on interfaces for the device for Genivi platform for SOTA
... we want other systems on the vehicle to be able to interact with OTA
... we have a RESTful open source API publicly available

<arthur> GENIVI SOTA online documentation:

<arthur> https://advancedtelematic.github.io/rvi_sota_server/

<arthur> API docs:

<arthur> https://advancedtelematic.github.io/rvi_sota_server/dev/api.html

Ted summarizes SOTA discussions to date and W3C standardization in general

Arthur: there is general agreement in wanting to standardize around OTA
... this is potentially usable for upgrading embedded devices in general and not just for vehicles
... US DHS has expressed interest and creating a test suite for this. having clear standards will help testing effort as well

Paul: The BG is about exploring ideas (incubator) and the WG for standardization. This would start in the BG
... are there any interfaces in the car at the Genivi level or are they lower down per vehicle?

Arthur: at the Genivi level. The vehicle can be presented with an application package for update, it could be a whole binary fs partition
... another for firmware. you are probably not going to get a standard for all types of updates, perhaps separate for each
... means of getting updates to device (vehicle), applying and confirming they are applied could be standardized

Paul: we had this conversation with The Magnuses, do you feel there are areas that should be within the realm of W3C - being Web in nature. Question for you and Ted

Arthur: I will need help there too in deciding where
... ATS is a fan of the web and REST approach, Genivi model is based on their RVI

Paul: can you elaborate?

Arthur: RVI is basic socket communication, client has support for service discovery etc but it is not "webby"

Paul: W3C is not all webby

Ted: true but we're still webby

Arthur: there are still communication levels over the web with RVI

Paul: there is a question of standardizations, exchanging ideas and gathering requirements
... BG is setup where open ideas are exchanged and explored for possible standards work

[discussion of upcoming Genivi AMM and W3C WG F2F including SOTA agenda item and participants]

LBS

PhillippeC: not much to report other than I will have a mockup ready as a starting point for this topic

Paul: does 9:30-10:30 work for you on Friday?

PhilippeC: only reminding point is WebIDL

Paul: there will be a general architecture discussion on Thursday at 9am on WebIDL vs Web Sockets

Security during F2F

PhilippeR: what are the plans for security discussions during the W3C F2F?

Ted: we will summarize activity, start of ideas for guidelines. some of the possible guideline editors will not be in Paris

Paul: it is set for 1pm on Tuesday

PhilippeR: I am in the process of restarting the security activity within Genivi as well
... I will make the scope public

Paul: thank you for welcoming anyone worth participating from W3C side

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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