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15:32:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference
15:32:44 <trackbot> Date: 12 April 2016
15:32:56 <ted> Meeting: Genivi / W3C Coordination call
15:35:19 <ted> Present+ Paul_Boyes, Philippe_Robin, Ted_Guild
15:36:11 <ted> Present+ Arthur(AdvancedTelematics)
15:36:31 <ted> Arthur: we are working on interfaces for the device for Genivi platform for SOTA
15:36:52 <ted> … we want other systems on the vehicle to be able to interact with OTA
15:37:25 <ted> … we have a RESTful open source API publicly available
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15:38:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/04/12-auto-minutes.html ted
15:38:16 <arthur> GENIVI SOTA online documentation:
15:38:36 <arthur> https://advancedtelematic.github.io/rvi_sota_server/
15:38:39 <arthur> API docs:
15:38:44 <arthur> Arthur Taylor :)
15:38:58 <arthur> https://advancedtelematic.github.io/rvi_sota_server/dev/api.html
15:39:00 <ted> s/Arthur Taylor :)//
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15:43:43 <ted> Ted summarizes SOTA discussions to date and W3C standardization in general
15:44:11 <ted> Arthur: there is general agreement in wanting to standardize around OTA
15:44:35 <ted> … this is potentially usable for upgrading embedded devices in general and not just for vehicles
15:45:06 <ted> … US DHS has expressed interest and creating a test suite for this.  having clear standards will help testing effort as well
15:45:39 <ted> Paul: The BG is about exploring ideas (incubator) and the WG for standardization.  This would start in the BG
15:46:13 <ted> … are there any interfaces in the car at the Genivi level or are they lower down per vehicle?
15:46:58 <ted> Arthur: at the Genivi level.  The vehicle can be presented with an application package for update, it could be a whole binary fs partition
15:47:27 <ted> … another for firmware. you are probably not going to get a standard for all types of updates, perhaps separate for each
15:47:48 <ted> … means of getting updates to device (vehicle), applying and confirming they are applied could be standardized
15:48:42 <ted> Paul: we had this conversation with The Magnuses, do you feel there are areas that should be within the realm of W3C - being Web in nature.  Question for you and Ted
15:48:57 <ted> Arthur: I will need help there too in deciding where
15:49:23 <ted> … ATS is a fan of the web and REST approach, Genivi model is based on their RVI
15:49:37 <ted> Paul: can you elaborate?
15:50:04 <ted> Arthur: RVI is basic socket communication, client has support for service discovery etc but it is not "webby"
15:50:14 <ted> Paul: W3C is not all webby
15:50:41 <ted> Ted: true but we're still webby
15:51:04 <ted> Arthur: there are still communication levels over the web with RVI
15:51:26 <ted> Paul: there is a question of standardizations, exchanging ideas and gathering requirements
15:51:58 <ted> … BG is setup where open ideas are exchanged and explored for possible standards work
15:54:47 <ted> [discussion of upcoming Genivi AMM and W3C WG F2F including SOTA agenda item and participants]
15:55:50 <ted> Topic: LBS
15:56:08 <ted> Present+ Phillippe_Colliot
15:56:42 <ted> PhillippeC: not much to report other than I will have a mockup ready as a starting point for this topic
15:56:55 <ted> Paul: does 9:30-10:30 work for you on Friday?
15:57:09 <ted> PhilippeC: only reminding point is WebIDL
15:57:34 <ted> Paul: there will be a general architecture discussion on Thursday at 9am on WebIDL vs Web Sockets
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16:00:50 <ted> Topic: Security during F2F
16:02:14 <ted> PhilippeR: what are the plans for security discussions during the W3C F2F?
16:02:45 <ted> Ted: we will summarize activity, start of ideas for guidelines.  some of the possible guideline editors will not be in Paris
16:02:55 <ted> Paul: it is set for 1pm on Tuesday
16:03:30 <ted> PhilippeR: I am in the process of restarting the security activity within Genivi as well
16:03:50 <ted> … I will make the scope public
16:04:24 <ted> Paul: thank you for welcoming anyone worth participating from W3C side
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19:50:36 <ted> rrsagent, bye
19:50:36 <RRSAgent> I see no action items