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<rhausam> I have some conflicts today - will try to join audio soon
Eric: You can use a separate loader file, that imports both your ontology and then your instance data, and load that loader file.
Tony: I'll try it
... It looks like it assigns local genid names to bnodes on
loading.
eric: Yes, because bnodes are
temporary names. They can be renamed at any time by the
engine.
... Maybe I can talk to the maintainers of the code this week
at AMIA.
... Changes to OWL API are reflected in Protege within a
day.
dbooth: Grahame wants the edits
to be done directly on
https://hl7-fhir.github.io/allergyintolerance-example.ttl.html
for version control reasons
... Should at least align with http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/rdf.html
as soon as possible.
... Rob, did you get section 4 put in?
rob: Not yet.
dbooth: It becomes section 3 in the github version.
eric: deepak edited section 3,
without knowing that rob was doing it. :(
... The purple sections in http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/rdf.html
are duplicated with the Ontology page, and will need to be
de-duplicated at some point.
... I will edit the doc for a week
... Maybe we can integrate with Grahame's version soon after
that, and then switch to the subversion version?
dbooth: Would like to capitalize on Rob's work too.
<scribe> ACTION: Rob to edit section 3 (Terminology) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-50 - Edit section 3 (terminology) [on Rob Frost - due 2016-03-29].
<scribe> ACTION: Eric to edit the FHIR RDF doc except section 3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-hcls-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Edit the fhir rdf doc except section 3 [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2016-03-29].
dbooth: Grahame is pushing back
on using fhir:resourceType to identify the root element: "Any
time a resource is included - whether it is contained or not,
it will have a fhir:resourceType"
... We said that the fhir:resourceType should have a *string*
value that is the name of the root element type.
... But rdf:type has a different purpose.
... "fhir:resourceType is not intended to replace rdf:type
declarations. Our intent is to use fhir:resourceType *only* to
indicate the root element of a FHIR resource instance. It is
not intended for use on other contained resources."
... It is indicating two things: 1. which node is the root
node; and 2. the FHIR type of that node (as a string).
The same two facts could be indicated in two separate statements instead:
:myAllergyIntolerance fhir:isRootNode true .
:myAllergyIntolerance fhir:hasFhirTypeAsString "AllergyIntolerance .
<ericP> i wonder if this would help avoid confusion: :hasFhirElementName "AllergyIntolerance"
<ericP> http://www.w3.org/2016/FHIR-tutorial/Constellations?logical
<ericP> look for a fhir:Specimen
<ericP> look for "a fhir:Specimen"
eric: If we look for anything
that is one of these resource types, and use that as the root,
we would not be able to roundtrip, because we have both
fhir:DiagnosticOrder and a fhir:Specimen and we do not know
which one should be the root.
... So we need a way to signal that
<DiagnosticOrder/12345-68> is the root node.
... All FHIR resources in JSON will have resourceType property
on them, even nested ones.
... Suggest using rdf:type instead of fhir:resourceType to
indicate the type of every FHIR resource.
... And explicitly indicate the root node using
fhir:isRootNode
dbooth: Like this: :myAllergyIntolerance fhir:isRootNode true .
or: :myAllergyIntolerance a fhir:RootNode .
dbooth: Let's see who shows up. If we don't have sufficient people by 5:10pm, I'll cancel.
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