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<trackbot> Date: 07 October 2015
<scribe> scribenick: ShaneM
<MichaelC> action-1669 due weeks
<trackbot> Set action-1669 Look at data on the web best practices http://www.w3.org/tr/dwbp/ due date to 2015-09-16.
<MichaelC> Web Platform Incubator Community Group
<MichaelC> The Hardware Pixel Community Group
putting in the dead groups list
JF: Do we have any way of noticing of something we think is dead is alive again?
MichaelC: not really
... maybe we should have a process of checking dead groups
periodically.
janina: once a year seems often enough.
JF: every six months seems better
janina: sure but we can't track our usual list for updates every six months.
JamesN: It isn't something we need to do in the group. Some individual could check it.
MichaelC: Yeah, and that's what
staff contacts are for. It would only take me like an
hour.
... janina and michael will make sure this happens each six
months.
<MichaelC> Schema Architypes Community Group
MichaelC: note that there is no reason for the chair and staff contact to do this. anyone can volunteer.
ShaneM: it might be related to the open group ArchiMate activity. I don't think it is related to us.
JF: it looks like metadata
MichaelC: a11y of archives is important. not clear if this would get high enough up. does the schema have that information.
janina: there is a difference between extending current tagging in schema.org and finding other ways of doing things.
MichaelC: I don't know enough about what schema.org is doing
JF: libraries and dublin core are in this group. some us based libraries and universities.
janina: maybe we could ask Jon Gunderson about this. Also, is there anything that should be related to the congnitive task force.
MichaelC: I don't know - if you
are tagging medieval documents for cognitive, that could get
interesting.
... I think we should take this as might need examination
later.
general agreement.
janina: there are a couple of comments.
ShaneM: checklist is done
janina: there were errors in the checklist.
ShaneM: there were? I didn't see them
janina: I will forward to list.
ShaneM: will review and comment on list
<JF> scribe: JF
MC: Progress is ongoing.
<ShaneM> rssagent, make minutes
JS: hope to have draft calendar
ready this week to get posted on wiki
... wanted to spend time defining our CSS concerns -
detailed
requested CSS WG to meet on the Friday
JS: will meet with dPub group as well - looking to take som e time Thursday afternoon
have also been requested to meet with Web Payments - time TBD
will discuss issues with Web Payments folks however
KHS: trying to arrange a time that works better (more convenient) to us
SM: they have a complicated
agenda, everyone wants to talk to them
... want to talk to them about PAUR
however, they want to talk about the APIS - what to expose to make things better for AT
also, what do we need in the spec - i.e. human readable language, not just the API
JS: i.e. "what this does", "what is this for"
KHS: the push-back is that these are APIs, there is no interface to interact with
we need to find a new way to talk about the requirements we need/want them to add, so that the APIs can deliver on XYZ
what do we need/want to have added to the API specs
JS: what we need/want isn't that
hard to name, but the other WGs are struggling what that
is
... we need sentencase, in plain english, what a piece of code
is doing - the purpose
often all we get is code examples, but we have no idea what the code is intended to do
KHS: agree, but this may not be what Web Payments is doing
JS: yes, but they are talking about an API
KHS: what they are attempting to do... there is no code in any of their documents at this time
SM: we're not talking about implementation yet
KHS: right, and we want the documentation to explain what is going on - more guidance on that
perhaps a smaller, off-line conversation, perhaps with the chairs. Happy to facilitate that
JS: what Shane suggested is what
Ian has also proposed. Focus on PAUR will be important
... I hope this effort will also spur the ARIA WG to look at
some of what came over from IndieUI
<Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to talk about Web Payments and the PAUR
JS: we have never been fully
happy with HTML 5.0 spec guidance on @alt
... for example, avoids @longdesc, etc.
there is a new draft, something a lot shorter, and many of the examples have been moved to a landing page which is named (referenced?) in the HTML spec
we need wider reviews
Shane and Liam have worked on the re-drafted text
will ask WCAG and EO WGs to also review the text
not sure how we move forward, and when. Next week? at TPAC? Other?
JN: is there a diff on the previous version
SM: there is not - could likely produce one, but the differences are fairly different
JN: are there major sections that are different?
SM: lots removed, and lots of editorial (language) changes
<scribe> ACTION: Shane_m to produce a diff of the two @alt text items [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/10/07-pf-minutes.html#action01]
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<scribe> ACTION: ShaneM to produce a diff of the two @alt text items [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/10/07-pf-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1729 - Produce a diff of the two @alt text items [on Shane McCarron - due 2015-10-14].
JS: Rich is not here. Not aware
of anything major, looking to move some heartbeats soon
... review of balance of agenda, seems nothing more to review
today
... waiting on multiple charter renewals so taht we can
continue the conversations going
... will discuss the role of the APA at TPAC on how we move
forward. More TF's, or a return to simple reviews only
discussion is on-go9ing. Pros and Cons for both approaches
JS: any other business?
... convene early
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