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<trackbot> Date: 29 July 2015
<scribe> scribe: Rich
janina: Michiell Bell is joining us for the first time in this meeting
jmd: I work for Igalia and I am the Orca screen reader maintainer and developer as well as an aria spec. co-editor
gottfried: I am at stuttgart university. I work on the universal remote console and the GPII
Ryladog: I am Katie Harito-Shea. I am getting geared up at PF.
Michiel: I work fo lechine in the Netherlands and want to contribute to ARIA
<MichielBijl> Lukkien*
Michael: action 1665 tracking compliance and scope
janina: not yet
<MichaelC> action-1685 due 15 aug
<trackbot> Set action-1685 Manage review of http://www.w3.org/tr/2015/wd-tracking-compliance-20150714/ tracking compliance and scope (note explicit review request needs response) due date to 2015-08-15.
janina: advance the due date to August 15
Michael: James, Cynthia, and me to review the CSS interface module
<MichaelC> action-1669 due 2 weeks
<trackbot> Set action-1669 Look at data on the web best practices http://www.w3.org/tr/dwbp/ due date to 2015-08-12.
Katie: can we split … this out for the next 2 weeks - action 1669
Action-w654?
action-1654?
<trackbot> action-1654 -- Gottfried Zimmermann to Take preliminary look at discovery & registration of multimodal modality components: state handling http://www.w3.org/tr/mmi-mc-discovery/ -- due 2015-07-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1654
<MichaelC> action-1654 due 30 aug
<trackbot> Set action-1654 Take preliminary look at discovery & registration of multimodal modality components: state handling http://www.w3.org/tr/mmi-mc-discovery/ due date to 2015-08-30.
gottfried: make the end of August please
action-1648?
<trackbot> action-1648 -- James Nurthen to Review entry point regulation http://www.w3.org/tr/epr/ -- due 2015-06-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1648
JN: I have not done it yet. I need to get to this, this week
<MichaelC> action-1648 due 1 week
<trackbot> Set action-1648 Review entry point regulation http://www.w3.org/tr/epr/ due date to 2015-08-05.
michael: I will put that out a week
<MichaelC> action-1648 due 29 aug
<trackbot> Set action-1648 Review entry point regulation http://www.w3.org/tr/epr/ due date to 2015-08-29.
janina: make that August 29
action-1629?
<trackbot> action-1629 -- James Nurthen to Review manifest for a web application http://www.w3.org/tr/appmanifest/ -- due 2015-06-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1629
michael: review the manifest for an application
<MichaelC> action-1629 due 29 Aug
<trackbot> Set action-1629 Review manifest for a web application http://www.w3.org/tr/appmanifest/ due date to 2015-08-29.
action-1615?
<trackbot> action-1615 -- Janina Sajka to Review media capture and streams http://www.w3.org/tr/mediacapture-streams/ -- due 2015-07-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1615
janina: closed to finished.
action-1597?
<trackbot> action-1597 -- Janina Sajka to Review web midi api http://www.w3.org/tr/webmidi/ -- due 2015-07-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1597
janina: give me another week please
<MichaelC> action-1597 due 1 week
<trackbot> Set action-1597 Review web midi api http://www.w3.org/tr/webmidi/ due date to 2015-08-05.
michael: no new publications in the last week
<MichaelC> Wearable Web Community Group
michael: wearable web community
group
... the mission is to investigate technical
standardizations
... I think it is dead
<MichaelC> Annotation UX Community Group
michael: there is a chair but no
mailing list represenatitives
... nothing happening in the community group
... put this in the would have like to track list
<MichaelC> BDE-Secure, clean and efficient energy Community Group
michael: bde secure clean and efficient energy
janina: we don’t need to track this one
<MichaelC> BDE-Smart, green and integrated transport Community Group
michael: there were 2 things on
the mailling list. one was a workshop
... we don’t need to track this
<MichaelC> Restaurant Ontology Community Group
michael: we don’t need to track
<MichaelC> WebAssembly Community Group
Michael: Script in general breaks
the declarative aspects. this takes it a step further and makes
it unreadable.
... this is more cross browser
... I don’t know if there are accessibility issues
fred: I thought applets were dead
michael: this is the replacement
for applets.
... the issue of script proliferation is something we need to
look at
Micheiel: You don’t have a source if you compile
Michael: if your script engine is
capable of interpreting the byte code …
... not really our problem
janina: we should not really track but have a discussion on scripting
michael: we don’t want to oppose it.
janina: we would not oppose it on
principle. We would want to ensure that whatever is there is
accessible. That gets broken too.
... there are issues to scripting and there need to be best
practices.
Michiel: any complications for AT?
Rich: Cynthia is going to lead an
effort on a javascript api for accessibility
... maybe they should look at this at some point
janina: let’s log it
... this is going to start an incubator CG
... we need to get down to the nuts and bolts of this for
tpac
... PF is monday, tuesday, thursday and Friday. ARIA is monday
and tuesday. APA is thursday and Friday
JN: when is the registration deadline before the fees go up?
Michael: It is not until
October
... October 7 is a bit late. so I am bugging you all :-)
<MichaelC> TPAC 2015
janina: as we get to August we will need actual agendas to develop
michael: I think DPUB is going
Rich: there may be a need to talk about math at TPAC as DPUB is there
<Ryladog> Main Page: http://www.w3.org/2015/11/TPAC/
janina: we have a lot of votes but we are waiting for a few. There are 36 hours left
<Ryladog> APA Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2015/APA
michael, those organizations were over pinged. (some that had not responded)
michael: we had a couple
objections we need to respond to
... we may provide an explanation of why a comment has not been
accepted.
... some objections are addressable with some
clarifications
... the more objections there are the more there we need to
look at them
... the presence of a lot of votes in favor does help
zakim close this item
<MichaelC> but objections are considered on their merits
Rich: we are turning and burning in ARIA. all good
janina: coga is doing well
fred: we are working on a chart taxonomy for svg2
michael: we found a way to handle
issues even if they did not have commit access
... this is svg2-aria. I will bring it to an editor’s
agenda
rich: the module approach has proven to be very successful. the dpub-aria group is doing well too
janina: Shane is following web
payments for accessibility
... there is a call to discuss web payments
... this is part of the HTML task force
... the html a11y task force call is tomorrow.
... Thursday, 11 Boston time
... #html-a11y
janina: we are waiting for me to send out the emails
janina: the world is moving
toward driverless vehicles.
... there are all kinds of technology.
... there is a proposal for future work. There is also a
community group on driverless APIs
... cross platform in how you interface and control it. we
should take the Maur approach on driverless and take it
disability by disability
... at TPAC we might offer to do this.
... … this is what you need to do to support it.
... we should have interfaces that work with talk back
... comments, questions?
katie: I think it is a good idea
janina: nobody has said no to
this
... we are at the stage of socializing this
... i am offering to work on it
... we could organize top categories in time for TPAC
<MichaelC> above discussion was under this topic
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