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<trackbot> Date: 15 June 2015
<scribe> scribe: matt_king
Postponing first agendum since James N is not present.
BG: should we mention checked state?
MK: May create ambiguity around whether checked and selected are equivalent
AA: Under description, 3 rd para, there is an "is" that should be "as".
Birkir: the pattern suggest that
tabindex may be 0 or greater.
... I do not like to encourage values greater 0.
AA: agree; let's delete that.
LW: I am a bit hesitant about the
content advice WRT the length of listbox options and whether
they should start with common strings.
... is it appropriate for the APG?
... do we want to go down the path of providing that kind of
advice for every pattern and for all types of AT users.
AA: don't want to lose that? where should it go?
LW: probably in WCAG.
<LJWatson> ACTION: Léonie to reach out to Andrew and Joshue to ask about WCAG techniques to support guidance in the ARIA APG 1.1. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-aria-apg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1652 - Reach out to andrew and joshue to ask about wcag techniques to support guidance in the aria apg 1.1. [on Léonie Watson - due 2015-06-22].
AA: in last paragraph of description, change the numerals to words.
LW: under roles, it should say each option should have a "role of option"
<Ryladog> Please use the Techniques Submission Form to submit techniques.http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/TECHS-SUBMIT/
AA: in type ahead, there is another number that should be a word.
birkir: kb interaction, 5th
bullet, up and move should be changed to up and down
arrow.
... home and end are missing for moving to beginning and
end
mk: ctrl+a seems english-centric. Is that something we should address in a note?
AA: Will ask team in China what their equivalent is.
<scribe> ACTION: Ann to find out what Chinese equivalent to ctrl+a is to help guide how we may add a note about internationalization. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-aria-apg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1653 - Find out what chinese equivalent to ctrl+a is to help guide how we may add a note about internationalization. [on Ann Abbott - due 2015-06-22].
action-1653?
<trackbot> action-1653 -- Ann Abbott to Find out what chinese equivalent to ctrl+a is to help guide how we may add a note about internationalization. -- due 2015-06-22 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1653
birkir: the order of items in the 2 selection models should be the same
mk: up and down arrow are missing
from model 2.
... up/down should be the first bullet in model 2.
MK: Not sure I understand difference between combobox and autocomplete; both patterns mention an edit and a list.
bg: with combox there is an option for it to be readonly
AA: Isn't read-only combo basically a listbox?
<bgaraventa1979> http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Comboboxes/ARIA%20Comboboxes%20(Simulated,%20Readonly)/demo.htm
BG: does not have to be.
<bgaraventa1979> readonly combobox control with simulated active element container
MK: think autocomplete has its
own pattern because it is valid in the aria spec to use the
autocomplete property on a textbox.
... it is not clear what the difference is between autocomplete
on a textbox and autocomplete on a combo means since inline is
valid on both.
... Will raise discussion on public PF list.
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