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WebFonts Working Group Teleconference

28 Jan 2015

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Attendees

Present
+1.978.790.aaaa, Vlad, jfkthame, +1.250.668.aabb, j_hudson
Regrets
ChrisL, Raph
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
RSheeter

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 28 January 2015

<scribe> scribenick: RSheeter

Action Items

action-116

<trackbot> action-116 -- David Kuettel to Decoder performance analysis on mobile devices -- due 2015-01-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/116

DK: Chrome is implementing a UMA; will hit stable early Q2 and then we start getting data

action-129

<trackbot> action-129 -- David Kuettel to Prepare a mime type application draft and justification for top-level "font" registration (with Vlad) -- due 2015-01-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/129

DK has gathered data to support proposal. Will attempt to send proposal next week.

action-133

<trackbot> action-133 -- Raph Levien to Review the spec edits and finalize the definition of the "nominal size" -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/133

No update

action-146

<trackbot> action-146 -- Chris Lilley to Use ietf-w3c liaison to get review and guidance for next steps on brotli id -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/146

No news

action-148

<trackbot> action-148 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Review and edit the conformance test for extraneous data -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/148

No changes

action-153

<trackbot> action-153 -- Raph Levien to Work with vlad to clarify all uses of original length -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/153

Depends on nominal size

action-155

<trackbot> action-155 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Clarify handling of checksum in a font collection -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/155

Vlad: assumption is that only head in the first font is accurate, and is for the first font alone.

action-156

<trackbot> action-156 -- Raph Levien to Draft spec update for ttc support -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/156

Draft provided, discussion later on

action-157

<trackbot> action-157 -- Vladimir Levantovsky to Find out what table ordering mtx applies prior to compression -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/157

Vlad: didn't find code; suggests wasn't helpful

close 157

close action-157

<trackbot> Closed action-157.

action-158

<trackbot> action-158 -- Roderick Sheeter to Inquire with brotli crew about whether re-ordering input is likely to help or not -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/158

Rod: I checked, they suggested it wasn't likely to make much difference

close action-158

<trackbot> Closed action-158.

action-159

<trackbot> action-159 -- David Kuettel to Motivate raph :d -- due 2015-01-14 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/159

:D

TTC Spec Changes

Vlad: indexes are easier to screw up than offsets, have to be careful here

(discussion of offsets and indices)

Tl;dr Need to clarify what encoder and decoder should do wrt table directory ordering and CollectionFontEntry indexes, potential for confusion

Vlad: we should have a separate section with more detail on how this is encoded, and the decoder will fall out of that

Data type for table directory indices could be 255UInt16 instead of UInt16; saves N_fonts *N_table_entries bytes in most cases (50% of those bytes)

(agreed)

Everyone: review TTC spec, suggest tweaks/improvements

Vlad: Tests for TTC require spec to be nailed down

CTS

I fear we have disconnected ourselves; one moment :D

Khaled confirmed working on CTS

DK: Would we like to try to have Khaled join calls? (if schedule works)

Vlad: Yes, particularly as we get more into CTS details. He is confirmed as an invited expert.

Rod: Will ping Khaled

action to rsheeter Invite Khaled to attend conference calls

<trackbot> Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/users>.

action rsheeter Invite Khaled to attend conference calls

<trackbot> Created ACTION-160 - Invite khaled to attend conference calls [on Roderick Sheeter - due 2015-02-04].

All are encouraged to try out the tests @ https://github.com/rsheeter/woff2-ttc

sorry, https://github.com/w3c/woff2-tests rather

How TTC Actually Works

(discussion of how some of spec is a bit gray, can we get more information of how it is used in the wild)

Last Call for Topics

DK: Mark Adler has started review of the Brotli spec
... He will be writing a decoder from scratch, based purely on the spec, in github. Will provide link later, provided no objections surface.

Summary of Action Items

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