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<trackbot> Date: 28 January 2015
Steven: Continuing from: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2015Jan/0016.html
10.5.7
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_2.0#The_xforms-compute-exception_Event
We need to decide about the editorial note.
Steven: Do we leave this in for last call?
Erik: The solution used to be
just to stop.
... I don't know who could provide feedback.
... I wrote this, I didn't go deeply into a solution.
\... we need to understand the implications.
scribe: maybe Alain has worked on this.
Steven: So you haven't worked on this yet in your implementation
Erik: No.
Philip: I had to do something similar recently, and I find it difficult to see how to make it recoverable...
Erik: It does seem difficult to
do something significant.
... we discussed the version-error event last time. That still
stops processing.
... we still made it catchable. We could do the same here.
Default stop processing, but make it catchable. Leave it to the
author to work out.
... circular dependencies can happen after initialisation,
because binds are dynamic
Steven: Do we still call it an exception?
Erik: I think we decided to call them all errors. Get rid of the distinction in the name.
Steven: I agree that this is the way to go.
Erik: We still need to provide some text.
<scribe> ACTION: Erik to write text to cover what happens with an xforms-compute-error in section 10.5.7 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-forms-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2002 - Write text to cover what happens with an xforms-compute-error in section 10.5.7 [on Erik Bruchez - due 2015-02-04].
Steven: Moving on - 10.6 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_2.0#Event_Sequencing
Should we include initialization as a sub-section?
Steven: It's fairly obvious, but
seems worth including.
... construct*, construct-done, xforms-ready
... Any objections?
[None]
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to add initialisation event sequence tfor section 10.6 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-forms-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2003 - Add initialisation event sequence tfor section 10.6 [on Steven Pemberton - due 2015-02-04].
Steven: My last point - 10.7
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_2.0#Resolving_ID_References_in_XForms
Does this really belong here?
Erik: It's rather general. It's not document structure, expressions, etc. Maybe there's no other place
Steven: I'm OK with it being here, but section 3, which includes the definition of @id should at least point to it.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to reference 10.7 from section 3 on @id. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-forms-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2004 - Reference 10.7 from section 3 on @id. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2015-02-04].
Steven: Section 10.1 Event
Overview
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_2.0#Events_Overview
... I propose adding columns for "Notification only", and for
"Context"
... then the table is much more usable.
... I assume no objections
\ACTION: Steven to add two new cols to table in 10.1 events overview
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2015Jan/0018.html
Steven: Basically we are
inconsistent about DOMActivate
... My proposal is to say that DOMActivate has different
default actions depending on the element generating
... it, and that it is still cancellable.
Erik: Fine, as long as it is compatible with HTML.
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to specify default action for DOMActivate [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-forms-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2005 - Specify default action for domactivate [on Steven Pemberton - due 2015-02-04].
Steven: I propose we stop here, and save section 11 for next week.
Erik: Regrets for next week.
[ADJOURN]
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to add two new cols to table in 10.1 events overview [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-forms-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2006 - Add two new cols to table in 10.1 events overview [on Steven Pemberton - due 2015-02-04].
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to add two new cols to table in 10.1 events overview [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-forms-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2007 - Add two new cols to table in 10.1 events overview [on Steven Pemberton - due 2015-02-04].
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