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<trackbot> Date: 09 January 2015
<darobin> mmmmmmm
<darobin> it doesn't seem to be scheduled
<darobin> something's screwed up
<benjamp> can you call in to discuss?
<xiaoqian> darobin, sorry, the bridge is: https://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_6597
<darobin> ah!
<darobin> benjamp: should work now!
<benjamp> great
<darobin> thanks a lot xiaoqian :)
<darobin> benjamp: sorry I wasn't faster on this, we're a bit distracted over here :-/
<benjamp> anyone else want to call in
<benjamp> ?
<benjamp> sch+ Forming the V1 Picture
<johanneswilm> i am
<johanneswilm> i am +45
ben: 1st item is v1 picture
<MikeSmith> koji, I'm just eavesdropping and I'm on another call, but if you have any problems with logistics feel free to ping me for help
<benjamp> http://w3c.github.io/editing-explainer/input-events.html
<benjamp> http://w3c.github.io/editing-explainer/contentEditable.html
ben: is these 3 specs good for
v1?
... Input Events spec
... ContentEditable spec
... Selection API spec
... name of the event
... i think "device independent event" is good
<smaug> (if you agree something here about selection etc specs, please send email to webapps mailing list. I and others may comment there. )
<johanneswilm> not realy, name is fine
<MikeSmith> meeting: Editing Task Force
all: agree
ben: next major point is
<MikeSmith> Meeting: Editing Task Force
<johanneswilm> spelling and grammar check should be quite adjustable by editor developers
ben: 3 types are on the
table
... IME, overtype, and spelling/autocorrect
johanneswilm: prefer to defer spelling and autocorrect
<johanneswilm> ok, got it. what about decoupling the two from oneanother?
<johanneswilm> make the spell/grammar checking available to javascript on a more general level
ben: IME inline requires text
replacement
... so replacement for this purpose cannot be deferred
<johanneswilm> right now the spell checking requires that one doesn't modify the right click menu
ben: ime is going to affect this
text range
... IME wants to modify this text range
... we need special casing for IME
... I'll investigate two levels of IME; investigate lower level
(non-inline)
... but I think we can solve inline issue, go assuming we can
do this
<johanneswilm2> I have been thrown out a number of times and the phone conenction is quite bad
<benjamp> sorry
<johanneswilm2> next time I will need to investigate how to do the sip connection
<johanneswilm2> I will follow here now
<johanneswilm2> mymost important part today was about the spellching and the V1
<benjamp> inline composition may need to be V2
<benjamp> users expect inline however
<benjamp> maybe we can treat inline composition like an image and make it non-editable?
<benjamp> koji: we should concentrate on stability
ben: ben: mapping between device events and device independent events
<johanneswilm2> Maybe we shouldn't expect V1 to be a full replacement for any possible situation? the old contenteditable will alongside of it for a while, correct?
ben: ctrl+B will be translated to
"bold" event
... apps wants to handle "bold" event if ctrl+B is going to be
translated
... but want to handle ctrl+B if not
<johanneswilm2> the problem with shortcuts is that they are differnet in different languages
<johanneswilm2> so if the app needs more short cuts, it's difficult to know which ones aren't used for a particular user
<benjamp> we should have information in device-specific events about what device-independent event will be caused
ben: wants events to indicate
what the source is
... e.g., apps may want to behave differently if the "enter"
key is from keyboard, voice, or something else
<benjamp> zakiim, make minutes
<benjamp> rrrsagent, make minutes
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