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<MichaelC> scribe: Tim
js: introductions around the table
... anything to report to group?
RESOLUTION: minutes approved for publication as submitted
js: draft agenda imminent..
... registration and hotel deadlines approaching
mc: actions re: css device adaptations
js: janina sent response - concerns re: ability to zoom
<MichaelC> action-1502 due 1 week
<trackbot> Set action-1502 Ask the mozilla people about whether CSS Device Adaptations fixed zoom is being implemented. due date to 2014-09-24.
js: implementation experience desired
<MichaelC> close action-1501
<trackbot> Closed action-1501.
mc: close apple leave microsoft open
rs: why do we want to inhibit zooming?
jn: there are reasons for various apps..
... mobile is driver for it
js.. will come back to this
mc: action on svg integration
js: will try to get to it soon
mc: no new publications of note
js: html5 status is pr
<MichaelC> Linked Data Platform
mc: looked at something related to this recently
js: can let this one go
mc: line grid module, css display module, mixed content - these are not FPWDs
... probably don't need to look at them
sm: html media capture cr - have we looked at this?
mc: we've reviewed already - no comments received
rs: there are remaining issues - get backlog done
... breakout name and description computation into separate document that can be referenced by ARIA 1.1, SVG 2
... Steve F will help work on this to get ready hopefully to TPAC
... keyboard help pushed off to ARIA 2.0
... separate out ARIA implementation guide to support host languages on web
... webaim survey - awareness/use of ARIA has grown dramatically recently
<ShaneM> http://webaim.org/blog/practitioner-survey-results/
<jongund> http://webaim.org/projects/practitionersurvey/#aria
jn: wcag techniques will increase awareness also
<jongund> http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey5/#landmarks
rs: use of aria landmarks for navigation has been widely adopted
... authors like live regions for doing status updates
... screen reader usage - jaws and nvda (picking up)
js: what end users should know about aria - maybe a useful document?
... maybe mention on WAI CG?
... requirements for ARIA 1.1 need to be organized
... digital publishing interest group moving towards joint work statement re: document accessibility
rs: do ARIA 1.1 requirements include issues (what is included)?
mc: issues list helps us to arrive at requirements
... doc says what we plan to do and scope information
... which issues stay and which pushed off
... need to know whether spec meets requirement
rs: higher level view
js: rely on digital publishing to support that
rs: greater support for digital publishing industry?
mc: separate requirement
js: still waiting on info re:longdesc html accessibiltiy task force related objection
... html 5.1 focus item discussion
... maybe break spec into modules? get aired in task force
... aria authoring progress?
jn: sent email suggested meetings on Fridays
... maybe regular meetings with agendas (starting on 26th)?
js: defer css device adaptation
js: what should next steps be?
cs: assign someone(s) to do CSS reviews? I could help in Oct
fe: I could help also
js: there is history to this (pointers in agenda)
... overall problem with review strategy is css highly modularized
... so reviews are in bits and pieces
... maybe joint meetings with CSS WG in future?
jf: one issue is zooming (others as well)
cs: suggest set up wiki page re: css review to better organize questions
jf: will review previous minutes first
<fesch> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/CSS/Spec_Review
there's already a css spec wiki (maybe out oof date)
cs: revisit this in several weeks
there is css snapshot document which may be helpful
js: goal is to get issues list together before TPAC to ask CSS WG for discussion
<JF> ACTION: JF to research open CSS issues and add to the wiki page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/17-pf-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1508 - Research open css issues and add to the wiki page [on John Foliot - due 2014-09-24].
<MichaelC> action-1508: bounce action to Cynthia and Fred after
<trackbot> Notes added to action-1508 Research open css issues and add to the wiki page.
sm: maybe CSS WG already has this info
... have automated linking of their specs to cross-reference definitions